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Don't buy shit. D RING Shackle

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by SnowroxKT, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. Mar 12, 2018 at 12:08 PM
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    SnowroxKT

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    Not to bash on Trail Gear, but holy shit check out the differences in these shackles.
    Trail Gear 3/4" Shackle WLL = 4.75T____5:1 Design Factor
    CM 3/4" Super Carbon Shackle WLL = 6.5T_____6:1 Design Factor

    That is over a 15 Ton difference in breaking strength.

    https://youtu.be/qiZmsRuSEjA
     
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  2. Mar 12, 2018 at 12:12 PM
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    ARamirez73

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    Thanks for input!
     
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  3. Mar 12, 2018 at 12:17 PM
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    I was amazed at the difference. If it can stop one person from getting killed (or hurt) from a broken shackle that would be awesome.
     
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  4. Mar 12, 2018 at 12:22 PM
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    Yeah I saw a YouTube post somewhere diff country guy got killed by one, brutal! Hole in face
     
  5. Mar 12, 2018 at 12:31 PM
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    Upgrayedd

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    Just checked the one I have in my truck. It’s a Crosby USA made. Looks like I should maybe get one with a higher working load limit.

    DDBF8927-AACD-42D7-BF18-458F341CCDCC.jpg

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  6. Mar 12, 2018 at 4:25 PM
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    Crosby is a good brand, the CM shackle that I show in the video is a Super Carbon Alloy, compared to the standard Carbon Alloy like the one you showed a picture of.
     
  7. Mar 12, 2018 at 4:28 PM
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    So where do we get these? Any links?
     
  8. Mar 12, 2018 at 4:31 PM
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    https://www.cmworks.com/Rigging/Shackles

    Anywhere that carries Columbus McKinnon shackles should have them. I got mine from Fasteners but Fastenal would probably have some too.
     
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  9. Mar 12, 2018 at 4:45 PM
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    This ones worse. It says unbreakable 41,850lbs. But it’s stamped 4.75 tons on the shackle, just like all the other cheap ones they sell for $13. This is going to get someone killed one day.
    916F9EA5-2727-4C86-8731-3DB60CA4E04B.jpg
     
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    Thanks
     
  11. Mar 12, 2018 at 5:05 PM
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    Now I'm concerned about what I have in my recovery bag. I guess I better go check eventually.
     
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  12. Mar 13, 2018 at 6:41 AM
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    Thanks for posting. I was just reading an article on this. Just goes to prove you get what you pay for and don't cheap out on stuff that can kill you.
     
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    Buy soft shackles, save lives.
     
  14. Mar 13, 2018 at 8:40 AM
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    What's the deal with soft shackles? :notsure:
    I'm sure like everything else there are good ones and bad ones. What should we be looking for? Are there go to brands/models?
     
  15. Mar 13, 2018 at 10:53 AM
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    I am assuming "soft" means an alloy of steel that has a ductile failure mode. Basically in non-engineering terms, the steel will bend before it breaks. This is always preferred over a brittle failure, which basically means it will just snap and release all the load all at once.

    Always check the stamped rating on your shackles, if they aren't stamped throw them in the trash. The American Society of Mechanical Engineers has requirements for rigging hardware and marking and labeling is one of the requirements. They should have the rated load, manufacturer, and size at a minimum. If you want some light reading on rigging hardware pick up a copy of ASME B30.26. Depending on wether or not your shackles were designed following ASME they should be designed with a factor of 5 and tested to a factor of 2 but for your own good use one with a rating 2-3 times the load you plan to put on it.

    I didn't stay at a holiday inn express last night but I do have a mechanical engineering degree.
     
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    No, these soft shackles.
    soft shackles.jpg
     
  17. Mar 13, 2018 at 11:00 AM
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    oooooo DUH. Sorry, the engineer in me thinks differently. Shackles and rigging hardware are something I deal with frequently at work lifting very expensive one of a kind things.
     
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    I pretend to be a mechanical engineer at work sometimes when one of the real ones isn't around, but I was asking about what Joon posted.
     
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    Got two 6.5 ton WLL today after seen this thread.
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    Great! Where did you get those bad boys?
     
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    ebay item 182115605875. I wanted to buy 4 but they only have 3 so only 1 left now.
     
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