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Do You Warm Up Your Engine?

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by Viper3G, Dec 21, 2016.

  1. Dec 21, 2016 at 10:05 AM
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    Viper3G

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  2. Dec 21, 2016 at 10:07 AM
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    I agree with the article. I don't live in a freezing climate or anything but I start it up and let mine idle for maybe 10 second then I'm on my way.
     
  3. Dec 21, 2016 at 10:20 AM
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    When it's cold out mine will start with a slighter higher idle. Maybe 10-15 seconds it's normal and I'm off. Only time mine gets more than that is if I'm letting the inside heat up
     
  4. Dec 21, 2016 at 10:24 AM
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    yeah 10-15 sec then it's GO time. idling for 20 min is stupid ( see article)
     
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  6. Dec 21, 2016 at 11:04 AM
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    Maybe up to a couple of minutes or so when its below zero.
     
  7. Dec 21, 2016 at 11:19 AM
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    Yes, but that typically takes more than a thirty seconds, at least for me.

    I've seen contrary opinions on this issue. That video in the OP left me more questions than answers. It is not clear to me how all the problems he mentioned (thinning of oil due to rich gas, etc.) magically go away (or even minimized) just because you put the car in D and push down on the accelerator.
     
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  8. Dec 21, 2016 at 11:30 AM
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    In the winter I have to so I can defrost the windshield and mirrors. Summer, I don't.
     
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  9. Dec 21, 2016 at 11:46 AM
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    Yes, but to defrost my windows in the winter not warm up the engine.
     
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    What he said. I can hear/see RPMs run high about this time. Once RPMs drop, I'm on my way, driving normal until temp climbs a bit.
     
  11. Dec 21, 2016 at 1:25 PM
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    Guess I'm the old fart. Garage is heated to 50 during winter, I start whichever vehicle will be driven, back out, close the garage door - then let it idle for about 2 minutes. Once I see the temp gauge move a hair - I drive.
     
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    1-2 min for me depending if the kiddo's are going with. If not, 27 seconds
     
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    A little more when it hits freezing temps.
     
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  17. Dec 21, 2016 at 4:11 PM
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    30-60 seconds warm up, than I go easy on the pedal for half a mile or so.
     
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  18. Dec 21, 2016 at 5:26 PM
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    This has always been an interesting conversation around Mechanic's.
    When it's cold I wait till the temp needle starts creeping up...In the summer I wait a about a minute.
    The way I think of it is think of your engine and transmission like it was you...... Ok in the morning literally jump out of bed and take off jogging and then to a flat out run. Now wouldn't you rather wake up and take a few minutes to warm up? Especially when it's cold.
    I understand what they are saying, but hey I'm just a busted AZZ millwright.
     
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    Didn't read the article, but there are many guys/gals with Tacoma's (and others) who have been letting their engines idle 10 mins or so in the winter to warm up...interior and engine. Some of these guys have 300k on them
     
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    I generally agree with the article however it is entirely unclear and not logical that "raw" gasoline creeps into the engine oil.

    Just for drill, agree with everyone here. I wait for fast idle to ratchet off and go.
     
  21. Dec 21, 2016 at 5:49 PM
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    We all know the cons to cold stat idling so why are so many still installing remote start systems. Even though in most states is is actually illegal to let you car idle for an extended period of time unattended. A better system for warming the vehicle would actually be a Webasto heater. You can set the timer to start about an hour before you leave in the morning and have the car/truck defrosted and warm when you get in.
     
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  23. Dec 21, 2016 at 7:02 PM
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    I usually get in and hit the starter, adjust temp and fan settings, plug in phone, put on seat belt, smack the kids a couple times, adjust my squirshed nuts, turn off track control, turn on haul ass mode, smack kidz couple more times then go back inside for some shit I forgot and by that time shes all warmed up and im off.
     
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    Sounds like just the right amount of time for the engine to warm up! :rofl:
     
  25. Dec 21, 2016 at 7:27 PM
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    I usually wait for the radiator fan clutch to disengage and spin free, about a minute. Sometimes I'll remote start it about a minute ahead of time so I can just jump in and bolt. If it's super cold, I've usually had the block heater plugged in. On big powder days, remote start it from the house just before putting my jacket on. Brush off the the snow and go.
     
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    I used to let my first gen warm up just because I had a lot miles on it so I felt warming it up for a few minutes would be better than just driving off right away... but I never really noticed a difference. The new one I usually go within the first minute of starting it, there's only been a handful of times that I've had it warming up for over a minute or two.
     
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    For me... for my 97 T100 5 min cold weather my Tundra same time frame
     
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    Roundabouts....:goingcrazy:
     
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    You hit the nail in the head.

    This article is crap. If they are going to use oil dilution and raw fuel getting into the oil as "reasons", then I lost a little respect for road and track.

    Point A: sure, oil dilution is a bad thing, but that's why Toyota does testing in cold chambers and in the freaking middle of no where Canada to compensate for this in their design and oil weight requirement. Additionally, the surface tension of oil while cooled is super high, meaning that it's not actually lubricating, it's just getting pushed around. Oil lubricates best at a sepcficied temp, usually that temp correlates to when the engine is at operating temperature. If anything, by not warming up your vehicle and driving it, you are actually causing more wear. Best case scenario would be a heater for the oil so that when your engine is started cold, the oil is warm enough to lubricate properly. Obviously, this isn't an option for the masses.


    Point B: the whole raw fuel into the oil part. This is going to happen whether you let it warm up or drive it. Per design, Toyota already pumps a shit ton of amperage at the AFs in order to get them up to temp as quickly as possible, but this still takes time. Meaning, the engine is running off of speed density based on air temp and the required amount of fuel based on the density of air at that temp. So what this translates to, is that the engine is already running rich at idle. So by driving it, you are actually putting more fuel into the oil because Fuel X times load = more fuel. If anything, letting it warm up at least it goes into closed loop is your best option.

    None of this also includes the issues with not bringing the trans fluid to operating temp and what havoc that can cause.
     
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