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Differential fluid change fair price?

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by OTX, Sep 10, 2020.

  1. Sep 14, 2020 at 4:17 PM
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    deptrai

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    The Tundra tranny & cooler holds ~12 quarts of fluid. Draining 2.25 quarts and adding 2.25 quarts back is not the proper way to do it. All they are going to do for $120 is drain the pan and refill what came out. If that's all you want done, save yourself $100 and do it yourself.
     
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  2. Sep 14, 2020 at 4:24 PM
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    I've got a 2018 with 30k mi and I just drained and filled the front & rear diffs and the transfer case. When I did mine, both differentials had metal shavings on the magnetic drain plug, but the fluids looked pretty clean. For comparison to your $210 quote, the drain/fill on my front and rear diff's cost me about $100 (7qts of Red Line 50105 75W85 High Performance Lightweight Synthetic Gear Oil).

    The process is super easy: remove fill/check plug, remove drain plug, let fluid drain, replace drain plug, fill fluid, replace fill/check plug.
    Here's an accurate video to show you what you're up against for the differential drain/fill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxMJOiFsxGU&t=117s
    As mentioned above, Toyota recommends the special 75W Transfer Gear Oil for the TC and it is expensive. Other folks have used a different 75W gear oil (e.g. video linked above) and claim to have no issues. Personally, I'm not taking any chances and will continue to use the Toyota-recommended fluids.

    If you've got a working set of hands, are capable of crawling under your truck, and have some basic tools (10mm hex, 24mm socket, cheap fluid pump, new fluids, and replacement washers) you could probably save a few $. We're talking in the neighborhood of $100, not $1,000 so do whatever you are comfortable with. Good luck!
     
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  3. Sep 14, 2020 at 4:31 PM
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    I think I know what you mean. Draining and refilling about 3 times?. That way pretty much all the fluid is new. Shall I tell them to do that?. I’m sure the labor will be a lot more. I’m just surprised they did not mention that to me?. They are a Toyota dedicated mechanic out of Houston named Duggys garage. I thought they would know better??
     
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  4. Sep 14, 2020 at 8:48 PM
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    I think it took me a little over an hour and a half to do all three
     
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  5. Sep 14, 2020 at 9:44 PM
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    I believe the manual/maintenance workbook says to change differential fluid every 30k miles. Lower interval if you tow. Also, you should engage 4hi once a month and drive 10 miles to keep parts lubricated.
     
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  6. Sep 14, 2020 at 9:54 PM
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    Is this true for 2nd gens too or just 3rd?
     
  7. Sep 14, 2020 at 10:01 PM
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    Just 3rd. 2nd gen has a different t case.

    welcome to the group.
     
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  8. Sep 14, 2020 at 10:15 PM
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    Thanks for that info. But aren’t dealership service supposed to use OEM/Toyota brand fluids in the first place. We’re they using something else?
     
  9. Sep 14, 2020 at 10:27 PM
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    Dude, that reply wins the internet today. Holy shit
     
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  10. Sep 15, 2020 at 6:30 AM
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    Yep ,I bought it with 14 miles on the odometer. There was some metal "sludge" on the magnetic plugs but way less than i was expecting.
    Ive road tripped through Yellowstone and done a few thousand miles offroad in 4WD , so you can see why i was disappointed...
     
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  11. Sep 15, 2020 at 11:41 AM
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    For what it's worth... I just purchased my 2017 Tundra TRD PRO and after looking at a couple of vids online I am gonna change out the front, rear diff, and transfer case oil this weekend. My owners manual said to use 75W-85 for the front and rear diff, and SAE 75W for the transfer case. After doing some research I decided to use Valvoline 75W-90. I plan on doing all of this once the hurricane passes. It doesn't seem too difficult. So far I have spent a little over 100 bucks in oil and crush washer gaskets. I was also gonna lube up the prop shaft.
     
  12. Sep 15, 2020 at 11:47 AM
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    Not hard at all, just takes time. I used the same weight in all 3 spots 75w90 Lucas synthetic .
     
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  13. Sep 15, 2020 at 12:34 PM
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    Not sure if your 2017 is the same as my 2018, but there aren't any grease fittings on the 2018 drive shafts!
     
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  14. Sep 15, 2020 at 1:11 PM
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    I'll let you know whenever I lift the truck. Thanks for the info!
     
  15. Sep 15, 2020 at 1:19 PM
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    This may be a dumb question, but if there aren't any grease fittings on your driveshaft do you have to lube it still? If so, how?
     
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    My 2017 has zerks - 3 in the back and 2 in front. I think they were phased out during the 2018 model year.
    There is no practical way to grease a non-serviceable driveshaft.
     
  17. Sep 15, 2020 at 1:26 PM
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    Let me know if I am tracking this correct.... so if I have zerks I need to grease it, and if it doesn't have any zerks then I am good to go and don't need to conduct any sort of maintenance on it?
     
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    10-4. You got it. I only mentioned it because I had planned to grease mine and was surprised when I crawled under and realized that there weren't any fittings on the '18 drive shaft!
     
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    Thank you thank you!!
     
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    This is why I'm skeptical in general when it comes to mechanics, even with Toyota dedicated garages recommended on forums. There's a shop called Javier's that is dedicated to 4x4s and I had them re boot my CV's on my tacoma along with other things. The CV's were still seeping and when I asked the response I got was "its normal" like its excess coming out. Well after cleaning them once or twice and still seeing seepage, I was able to conclude it's not normal. Check the retainers and some were loose. I was fairly new to 4x4s when I had them do it. Now I'm looking to reboot as I don't know how much grease is left. :mad:

    I've also used Duggys to install my suspension and change out the output shaft seal on the transfer case on my tacoma. No issues
     
  21. Sep 15, 2020 at 2:33 PM
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    I’m extremely skeptical too as I can’t tell if they did the job properly or not like what happened with you at Javiers. I would leave a review if I was you as they screwed you really. I would ask for a refund.

    I spoke to Duggys garage today and I asked why the 3 drain and refill cycles were not mentioned and he said that it really doesn’t make much of a difference if I drain and refill once vs 3 times. That doesn’t sound right but then again I’m no expert. They have 5 star reviews on google and Facebook so I guess they know!. I would appreciate if someone who knows about this stuff would weigh in. Thanks
     
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    This was done back in December 2017 so I
    the best I can do at this point is leave a review.
     
  23. Sep 15, 2020 at 2:49 PM
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    It’s been a while for sure but I would definitely leave a review for that. They should be held accountable and trust me, those google reviews make a difference!. I’ve had companies ignore a problem and then once I leave a review, they’ll call and offer a solution.

    Once I had a company put brand new brakes that made a very loud whistling noise. I called and said they were faulty but they said there is nothing they could do about it and that it was the wheel bearing that was causing the noise. After I left the review, they called and replaced the pads and guess what...no more noise lol
     
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  24. Sep 15, 2020 at 6:23 PM
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    If there's a shortcut/excuse, it will be done/used...if you can, or are willing to learn, always do your own maintenance...especially with YouTube, anything is possible...within reason of course...
     
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  25. Sep 16, 2020 at 6:11 AM
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    I had a buddy who worked in a lube shop when he was in high school. He told me that they had a fake part # that they'd call out when the oil filter was in a PITA location or when they just didn't feel like changing it. That story convinced me to continue to do my own maintainence :eek2:
     
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