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Different lug nuts when upgrading from steel wheels to alloys?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by mdavis, Apr 23, 2015.

  1. Apr 23, 2015 at 5:11 AM
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    Hey guys, just bought some OEM 20in limited wheels to upgrade the look of my truck. My question is, do I need different lug nuts when upgrading from steel wheels to alloys? I have seen some places on ebay selling wheels that say you need different ones. If so anyone have the part number for the lugs I would need for the 20in alloys? Thanks.
     
  2. Apr 23, 2015 at 7:30 AM
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    If your new OEM rims are not hub centric (rim hole centers on wheel hub) then you most likely need taper style lug nuts to center the wheel on the hub. (lug centric) Since they are OEM rims I would check with the dealer to be sure. I have the OEM lug nut set I bought from the dealer and they are pretty good. Not cheap.
     
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    Thanks! I'll check with the dealer. I bought them as new takeoffs on ebay from a Toyota dealership but will check with my local. When you say not cheap, how much we talking?
     
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    I would ask the manufacturer that question. I'm getting some Method wheels installed tomorrow and they special noted to make sure the lugs had extended thread. 14x1.5 ET Acorn style.
     
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    I seem to recall somewhere near $40 for the set but included spare tire lift kit and lock.. As far as the rims, in this case the mfr is Toyota if they are OEM rims. Alloys will have extended threads compared to OEM steel rims.There are different taper types to take into account for sure. The dealer should have proper lug nut and torque info.
     
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    Thanks guys!
     
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    If they are mounted the same way the 1st gen alloys are you will need different lug nuts. On 1st gens the steel wheels are normal acorn type lugs and the alloys use a "shoulder" type lug nut that has the hex for the wrench, then a large flat washer type area, and then a straight shank piece that goes through the wheel. The OEM ones also have a taper on the end (just like the acorn nuts) that is not used for the alloys, but allows you to use the alloy nuts for your steel spare wheel (looks real weird if you bolt up the spare, but works). Check the wheels and see if they simply have a bored hole for the lug nuts with a flat outer mating surface (sleeve type lug nuts), or if they have a tapered seat (usually with a steel insert) if they are made for acorn style nuts. Pretty much all of the older 6 lug Toyota alloys used the sleeve type lug nuts and were hub centric. Wheel was centered by the hub and they lugs simply clamp the wheel against the hub. Regular acorn style lugs use the lug to both clamp and center the wheel. Don't use the wrong lugs as you can really trash the wheels if you put acorn nuts on a wheel that wasn't made for them...Not sure with the newer 5 bolt stuff. Did a search and all that comes up are the shoulder type lugs for both Toyota & Lexus with the difference in the new ones being they are a larger size than the 1st gen.
     
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