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Discussion in 'Suspension' started by ColoradoTJ, Mar 20, 2016.

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  1. Mar 21, 2016 at 8:57 PM
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    Diesel no less...

    :poking:
     
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  3. Mar 21, 2016 at 9:06 PM
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    Totally diesel. I heard it from a buddy whoms friends sisters boyfriends mom's ex grandfather three times removed said so.


    Has to be legit.
     
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  4. Mar 21, 2016 at 9:37 PM
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    Are you comparing the 6.2L about a 1997 7.3L Ford diesel with 400K miles?
     
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  5. Mar 21, 2016 at 9:41 PM
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    That is my major complaint with my Tundra. All my friends F250/350s have lockers in their tow rigs for Pete's sake.
     
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    Ah, I can't own a Raptor anyway. The tow rating is just not enough. 6-8000 lbs depending on configuration just doesn't cut it. Hell, my flatbed trailer almost weighs 3K.

    Today, in fact I was working my Tundra

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    Raptor isn't doing that in a crew cab SVT.
     
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  7. Mar 22, 2016 at 5:03 AM
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    I've driven two of those too!
     
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  9. Mar 22, 2016 at 7:52 AM
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    However, also keeping in mind that I'd personally rather bend and replace a tie rod than a steering rack...

    Part of the reason I have but didn't install the AllPro HD tie rods. I can shit hammer a bent tie rod back in the field. I can't monkey fuck a rack into working condition however.
     
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  10. Mar 22, 2016 at 8:27 AM
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    No comparison. Saying a 6.2L tows like a diesel says one of a couple things to me:

    -Never towed anything heavy
    -never towed with a modern diesel
    -someone called your out on a silly comment.
     
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    I've driven a 2014 Raptor. I'll give you an honest comparison for someone who went down the rabbit hole when I built my Tundra.





























    There is no comparison. My truck has more HP, more torque, more wheel travel, it's 500 pounds lighter, and even with getting a platinum and adding my mods, it cost less. Not to mention it's a Toyota.

    I will say I'm a little jealous that the 2017's are coming with 3.0" IBP front Fox shocks. But it's nothing I couldn't one up by adding a bypass shock to my current setup. Also Ford is ditching the iron block 6.2L v8 in 2017 and replacing it with an ecoboost 3.5L v6 with a fucking 10 speed transmission.
     
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    I just talked to my buddy with the Raptor. They just drove from Colorado to California and did 14.7 mpg. Coming back might be a different story though.

    Not bad.

    He paid 40K for a 12' Raptor. Expensive toy. At least we have some coarses for him to play on and endless amounts of trails. Not as good as CA, NV, AZ for desert stuff, but still pretty good.
     
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  13. Mar 22, 2016 at 9:47 AM
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    I've driven every modern diesel. 6.6 Duramax, 7.3, 6.0. 6.4 powerstroke, 6.7 Scorpion, 5.9 and 6.7 Cummins. And I've driven them all on the same chassis carrying the same weight. I've also used GM's 6.0 gasser so I can say with certainty, it pulls like a diesel. Now, at max capacity will it be side by side? Fuck no, I never said that. You cannot compare to a diesels toque/RPM. (Unless you're talking ecoboost, but that's another kettle of fish.)
    However, the 6.0 compared to the 6.2. Night and day difference.

    And seeing as the 6.2 makes roughly the same torque and WAY more HP than the 7.3, yes, they are comparable.
     
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  14. Mar 22, 2016 at 10:07 AM
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    You might want to go back to post #8, you did compare a diesel to the Gas 6.2L.

    "The 6.2 pulls like a diesel honestly. It's smooth and it feels like a freight train pulling. I really liked driving it."

    Great we can compare a 15 year old diesel with a current V8.
     
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    Will you two just fucking kiss and make up already.
     
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    I will not sir....lol.

    I'm not upset and value his opinion, just think it is funny when people start comparing diesels to V-8/V-6 turbo gas motors. In reality, there just is no comparison. There was a time that gas motors had more HP/TQ (V-10) and that got squashed pretty quick.

    Will I get a diesel again? Bet your ass I will, been wanting one for almost three years ago since I purchased my Tundra. Only reason I bought a Tundra:

    -Can tow what I need at a reasonable speed
    -reliability
    -resale.

    This gives me time to save up for the $60K dollar hit a new Ford F-350 is going to set me back (at least). Hell, the wife was heckling me last night in front of my friends about not going out and buying a new F-350. I still don't need one...yet. 2 more years..then I drop the coin. I don't see Toyota doing much with the Tundra, and even if they do, it most likely will not do what I want it to anyway.
     
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    Dieseltoys used to do the swap no more. But they used the Toyota diesels.
     
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  19. Mar 22, 2016 at 3:27 PM
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    Still doesn't have the capacity rating I would need in a diesel Tundra, Raptor or pretty much any 1/2 ton truck. That includes the pig called Titan XD as well. Now there is a joke of an attempt on a diesel truck attempt.
     
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  20. Mar 22, 2016 at 3:28 PM
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    It was last year they stopped right?

    Still pretty expensive at 20k for a motor.
     
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    I stand by my statement. Like a diesel. Not exactly like one. ;)

    Do we hug now?
     
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    Jesus. Lol. I would rather go have beers....

    That is what is great about debating and not getting buttsoar, name calling etc. You can be right in your eyes and I can be right....or something like that.

    You're all right in my book Krazie Sj
     
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    It was more like 30k for the v8 twin turbo.

    They stopped working on them.
     
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    I question your Sexual preference and you may or may not lack intelligence to the point of having a congenital cognitive disability!

    Clump for president!
     
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ABN Coil Spring Compression Tools - 2pc Durable Coil Spring Clamps Strut Spring Compressor Tool Set with Safety Guard
$48.99
TORQUE Airbag Air Bag Suspension Kit for 2007-2021 Toyota Tundra 2WD 4WD Rear Helper Bag Spring Towing 5000 lbs (Replaces Firestone Ride Rite 2445) (TR2445)
$219.99
Toyota Genuine Land Cruiser Sequoia Tundra Black PVD Wheel Lug Nuts (5 Pack) PT076-0C200-02
$28.98
Warrior Products 800061 2.5" 4 Degree Leaf Spring Shim - Pair
$51.27
Shankly Spring Compressor Tool - Heavy Duty Build, Ultra-Rugged Coil Spring Compressor Tool or Strut Spring Compressor Strong and Durable ATV Spring Compressor Tool
$59.99
Shankly Spring Compressor Tool - 2200 Lbs - Extra Strength, Heavy Duty Build, Ultra-Rugged Coil Spring Compressor Tool or Strut Spring Compressor Strong and Durable ATV Spring Compressor Tool
$64.98
Lincoln 1134 Extra Heavy Duty Pistol Grip Grease Gun, 6" Rigid Extension, Dual Lip Follower, Variable Stroke Mechanism, 18 Whip Hose with Coupler
$51.30
OEMTOOLS 25551 Coil Spring Compressor, Tool For MacPherson Spring Installation And Removal, U-Bolt Design For Maximum Safety, Forged Steel Hooks And Latches For Controlled Compression
$54.99
Steelman ChassisEAR Automotive Diagnostics Multichannel Electronic Stethoscope Tool, 6 Noise-Finder Microphone Clamps with Leads, Over-Ear Headphones
$100.99
1000kg Macpherson Strut Coil Spring Compressor Dumper Extractor Yolk Protector
$105.95
Daystar, Air Bag Cradle designed for full suspension travel, Fits All 6" diameter convoluted Air Bags, fits any full size of half ton truck, 2/4WD, KU09140BK, Made in America, Black
$73.39
Bilstein 24186247 Shock Absorber for Toyota Light Truck
$84.00
2-1/2" Wide Axle LEAF SPRING CLAMPS - SET OF FOUR (4) (4X4 OFF-ROAD VEHICLES)
$33.99
BTSHUB 280mm Hook Coil Spring Compressor Tool Heavy Duty, Strong and Durable Spring Compressor
$34.99
Coil Spring Compressor Tool or Strut Spring Compressor with 2 Steel Jaw Claws to Wrap Coil Spring Heavy Duty Spring Compression 370mm Drop Forged Spring Compressor Tool Automotive
$31.99
ABN 11.5in Strut Spring Compressor Tool – Set of 2 (Pair) – Macpherson Spring Compression, 13/16in Socket 1/2in Drive
$29.99
GEARWRENCH GearBox 12 Pt. XL Double Box Ratcheting Wrench, 22mm - 85922
$35.46
GEARWRENCH GearBox™ 12 Pt. XL Flex Head Double Box Ratcheting Wrench, 22mm - 86022
$49.15
52420 2" Air Bag Lift Universal Air Spring Spacers Kit for Most Lift Kits
$38.99
OEMTOOLS 25550 MacPherson 10.75" Strut Spring Compressor, Automotive Suspension System Maintenance Tool, 2-Piece Universal Spring Compressor Tools with 9.75" Maximum Safe Opening, Forged Hooks
$39.49
Beck/Arnley 101-7653 Ball Joint
$39.45
Bilstein 11176015 Mounting Kit
$42.00
in Cab Single Air Gauge Control Kit with Paddle Switch for Air Suspension Kit
$43.99
Boeshield T-9 Aerosol Can (4 -Ounce) (122184) , White
$13.78
CRC 3084 Dry Moly Lube, (Net Weight: 11 oz.) Dark Gray, Original Version
$15.29
VHT Single ESP154000 Engine Enamel Grabber Green 11 oz. Aerosol
$16.39
Gabriel 143340 Suspension Mount Regular
$19.64
Control Devices P2525-1WA Brass Ball Check Valve, 1/4" NPT Female x NPT Male
$8.89
Maxima 74908 Chain Wax - 5.5 oz. Aerosol
$11.93
Maxima 74920 Chain Wax - 13.5 oz. Aerosol
$20.67
3M Clear Paint Surface Protection Vinyl Film (6" x 60")
$19.88
Protune Suspension Rear Shock Extender W/Brake Line Relocation 2-4" Lift Kit fits for Toyota Tundra 07-19
$24.99
Leaf Spring Liner with Lip, 2-1/4", Black
$20.99
MOOG K500018 Front Upper Suspension Ball Joint for Toyota 4Runner
$23.50
NEIKO 01407A Electronic Digital Caliper | 0-6"es | Stainless Steel Construction with Large LCD Screen | Quick Change Button for Inch/Fraction/Millimeter Conversions
$24.99
KYB SM5737 - Mount Kit
$21.76
XL/Car Window Shades Fit Most SUVs, Car Shades for Back Windows Baby, Breathable Mesh Windows Screen Net for Camping, Full Covers for Kids, Privacy, Bugs & Sun Protection, Qualizzi® 2-Pack, 14 Sizes
$21.97
AZUNO Digital Tire Inflator with Pressure Gauge, 200 PSI (0.1 Res) w/LED Flashlight, Heavy Duty Air Compressor Accessories 7pcs Set, w/Lock on Air Dual Head Chuck and 90° Tire Valve
$25.99
MOOG K90255 Front Upper Suspension Ball Joint for Toyota Tundra
$26.46
OTC 4722 Stinger Heavy-Duty CV Boot Clamp Installer
$28.59
GEARWRENCH Ball Joint Separator - 3916D
$25.35
TEKTON 17 x 19 mm Long Flex Ratcheting Box End Wrench | WRN77113
$32.00
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