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CrewMax Backseat Storage Hack

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by moonshineheadache, Jun 30, 2018.

  1. Oct 15, 2018 at 3:45 PM
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    Got some stuff
    How much for the frame?
     
  2. Oct 15, 2018 at 4:09 PM
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    I haven't really calculated it out yet because each frame uses such a small amount of a sheet of aluminum which is expensive. Also then shipping would be high because it would require a large box. The solution is to make a bunch of frames to reduce the cost of materials and ship them in pieces that could be welded or riveted together. The previous replies indicated the cost was kind of high, so right now I'm working on the bases only to see if I can get the cost down. CNC time for production is around $90 an hour and each of the four bases has different relief requirements for bolts rivets and spot welds.
     
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  3. Oct 16, 2018 at 6:04 AM
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    Adding to this thread, here is how I did my under the seat storage mod. Did this for 2 reasons (and not quite done yet). 1st was to house my ham radio rigs, 2nd was additional storage. I was able to complete one of the storage bins last night. Here is how I did it.

    First:
    Removed the back seat and pulled back the carpet.
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    Second:
    Took out the styrofoam fillers
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    Third:
    Cut out the inner part of the styrofoam. I followed the little line around the outer edge. Did this in all 3 pieces. I wanted to get as much space as I could. Only hiccup, once I got near the end, the carpet pulled a little. But it isn't that big of a deal for me. Storage is more critical.
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    Fourth:
    Put them back. Laid the carpet back down and put the backseat back in.
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    Fifth:
    Covered the area with painters tape and felt for the edge of the cutout. Traced the edges wit a straight edge and a sharpie.
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    Sixth:
    Ok, here, the 45 degree lines are my cut lines, as is the center straight line. I used a razor blade and cut ONLY the 45's and the center line. The reason, I wanted to fold the carpet down to make a clean edge. Here is what I was talking about back in step 3. When I folded the carpet, it pulled out from under the seat brackets some. So not a perfect install, but once I get the carpet to crease and set, it should be ok. Like I said, storage is more important.
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    Seventh:
    The bottom. I used a material called Styrene. It is a 3mm ABS plastic. You can get this from sign shops. Runs about $40 for a 4' x 8' sheet (yes, 4 foot by 8 foot). This stuff is great. Glues with PVC glue, heats and molds with a hair dryer (a heat gun gives faster results though) and cuts with a box cutter. Back to the bottom. I cut out a piece of 3mm Styrene the size of the opening minus the thickness of the carpet on both sides. I cut it a WEEEEE bit big so it would have to be "strongly placed" in the bottom.
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    Eighth:
    Now I shoved the Styrene into the hole pinning the carpet. I may go back and put in some screws into the floor pan to cinch it down, but for now it seems to hold well.
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    This is the passenger side storage. I am still working on the driver side and center. Those will be a little more involved since that is where I am storing my ham gear. But the end result will be very similar.
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    Total cost, for me, $0. I already had the Styrene. But if you had to buy the ABS, $40. If I was to start and do just this, would take about a day.
     
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  4. Oct 16, 2018 at 6:52 AM
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    That looks really nice. and i like the price. Thanks for the idea.
     
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  5. Oct 16, 2018 at 7:53 AM
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    Awesome job @vader7071... thank you for sharing.
     
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  6. Nov 26, 2018 at 2:14 PM
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    Thank you everyone. I was close to buying the ESP solution and think those really look nice, however didn't really want to spend that much money and didn't think it really maximized the space, which is already so limited. Now I think I may do a hybrid of these ideas instead. I'm thinking of just cutting the foam out like vader7071, but not cutting the carpet the same way. I'm thinking of just cutting the sides and back of the carpet leaving the front attached as a sort of flap with a hinge that I can use to just cover the hole back up with the carpet providing a bit of stealth/secret storage underneath, which may be better than locked storage to begin with... I'm thinking I may put some Dynamat on the bottom to provide some insulation from the metal at least. This should also allow me to use my WeatherTech floormats to also cover it back up. I may even do the half rifle case mod on top of that for even more storage and concealment of what lies below... My only concern is that while I like the practical idea of this, I don't want it to look like a hack job either... Decisions, decisions... :)
     
  7. Nov 26, 2018 at 6:15 PM
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    In my opinion it will look like a hack job if you cut the carpet but don't finish it off with a good container or storage system. Also, you lose depth if you do it your way. The ESP adds another inch or so to the depth of the storage by having a raised lip.
    The ESP storage is the best mod of all that I have done (given that I have not done any huge suspension or wheel mods)
    If you can buy a $30k or $40k truck, you should be able to afford a ESP tray (just my humble opinion) .You can thank me later. :thumbsup:
     
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  8. Nov 26, 2018 at 6:28 PM
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    *Not if you get their long box. :(

    I just bought direct from ESP BF deal $629.98 +free shipping :dancingbacon:
    Thanks @havasubud :cheers:
     
  9. Nov 26, 2018 at 7:00 PM
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    Thank you for the input and feedback. It's not that I can't afford the ESP (just spent over $4,500 on other mods in the last two weeks), I just have some other ideas that I think could provide more flexible options. I don't disagee with you though on the look as I'm sure the ESP would look better, but it's under the rear seat so not sure who will ever see it besides me to begin with. Which ESP option did you go with out of curiousity?
     
  10. Nov 26, 2018 at 8:23 PM
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    You're welcome and thank you!
     
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  11. Nov 27, 2018 at 3:00 AM
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    The basic 3-tray plastic one.
     
  12. Nov 27, 2018 at 6:23 AM
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    Nice work!
     
  13. Dec 3, 2018 at 9:47 PM
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    First off, props to all the guys contributing posts and ideas. These have been the best ideas yet that I've seen yet!

    After seeing the amount of space that is actually available, I have two ideas to kinda meet in the middle for most peoples needs of professional looking and useful. I figure either of these could use cabinet style "push to open" popper latches, eliminating handles and pulls.

    1. Cut the foam out as Vader did, and either build a similar frame to (or actually use) a safety deposit box like below, but cutting the carpet in a "[" shape and attaching it to the box lid via glue/velcro. This would give you the full length/width compartment (hinge far enough forward to clear seat) and with the lid down covered w stock carpet, it would be stealthy/stock looking.
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    2. Same general idea as above, except using a sliding drawer that would pull out forward, similar to a truck slide box, but obviously smaller, and could still be hidden with stock carpet if done with care and some patience. This would also allow entry without having to flip the seat up for those with car seats/pets/etc. as well as a full length/width compartment
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    Thoughts? Pros/Cons?
     
  14. Dec 4, 2018 at 11:50 AM
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    Great ideas. Just keep in mind that the floor is not flat - it slopes up a little towards the back, so your depth is getting limited if you use a longer box.
    Also, for the drawer idea, there is a little bit of a lip in the front which also limits the depth of the drawer. Not much, but just something to keep in mind.
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  15. Dec 4, 2018 at 9:43 PM
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    I see what you mean, I dont think the slope and lip would be a major factor if you hand built a insert, but could be if you were using off the shelf parts. I wish I was home to try some of this stuff out on my truck!
     
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    I thought about building something or doing a hack but the more I thought about cutting into my truck the more I thought I want it to look clean and as OEM as possible. I decided to go with the ESP locking long box. I know $$$. I can say I was surprised it fit a lot of stuff. I can also put things I don’t need to lock up under the seat (shown in picture). The ESP box and seat brackets hold everything into place. I had to play around with some of the items to get the seat to lock when folded down but everything I had in my Tacoma OR behind and under seat storage I was able to fit in this space now. I am very happy with this mod. ED3B18C5-9D01-4232-AE65-63E9210E0C07.jpg
     
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    I really like the looks and versatility of the ESP.
    My only question is: Do you get any road noise reverberating up through it due to cutting out the floor insulation? Or maybe does any extra noise get absorbed by the bottoms of the seats when they’re folded down?
     
  18. Dec 5, 2018 at 5:50 AM
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    I don't know about the metal long box, but the regular one with the 3 plastic bins does not add any noise due to removing the insulation.
     
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    Thanks for the info Ferdie!
    I was actually thinking about the long box because it's more versatile. The thing with that is that I would't be storing anything in there that needs to be locked away. I wish they made a reduced price long box that didn't lock and maybe wasn't so heavy duty.
    I might end up making something myself in my free time....if i ever get any free time.
    Decisions, decisions.
     
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    The seat brackets would need to be replaced or modified to get a long box that is deeper than the seat to carpet. The ESP has the brackets. I have only had it in for a few days but I have not noticed any difference in cab noise. If you want a long box I would recommend this one. Only thing I’m not sure that I like is how it sticks out from under the seat. I feel like there could have been a way to get it flush with the seat so you couldn’t see it. I feel like if a prowler was looking now they would see there was something under the seat. I’m glad it locks but you’d still be replacing a window.
     
  21. Dec 7, 2018 at 6:39 PM
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    All, here are a set of the CNC machined seat relocation brackets. Let me know what you all think. Again lifts rear seat 1 inch and forward 2 inches giving you room underneath and behind the seats for storage without cutting anything. Completely removable to go back to factory location.

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    Would this move my seat forward covering the ESP long box?
     
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    I'm not sure once I have them painted I will post install photos and instructions
     
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    I do not have the esp
     
  25. Dec 7, 2018 at 7:07 PM
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    Looking at the ESP photos above these would not work
     
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    Interesting
     
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    Man I wish Toyota hadn't wasted SO much usable space in the back of the CM, particularly behind the seats by not engineering them to fold down.
     
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