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Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by T-Rex266, Apr 14, 2018.

  1. Apr 14, 2018 at 6:04 PM
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    BuckWallace

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    This is pretty much spot on. If someone ends up with a virus it's either from downloading/viewing porn or using a torrent to illegally download media files 99% of the time.
     
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  2. Apr 14, 2018 at 6:08 PM
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    You're correct. Mac uses PC hardware nowadays.

    You're also correct that you're paying for the image, not necessarily any improved performance or security. If you prefer Mac because it just resonates with you, that's fine - but to make inaccurate claims about viruses and/or capability is just not honest or is ill-informed.
     
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  3. Apr 14, 2018 at 6:27 PM
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    @T-Rex266

    My company used to use Dell computers. My old Dell e6440 is over 5 years old, and works like a dream. I replaced the battery and D key about a year ago before wiping it and giving it to my daughter (my company allowed me to keep it when I got a new work laptop because there was no point in them keeping it.)

    She uses it for photo editing, recording and editing music, research and reports, and everything else you'd expect a 16 year old girl to use a laptop for.

    We now use HP laptops. Any HP, Dell, Asus, etc laptop will be great if you don't get a bottom of the line laptop. If you're not gaming or drawing CAD you can get away with integrated graphics and less memory. The "must-haves," in my opinion, would be a 7th or 8th gen i5 or i7, 16gb DDR4 memory or greater, and 500gb or more solid state storage. A laptop with these minimum specs will be burning fast for what you say you're using it for.

    Check out the Dell XPS 15-9560. Look at the one in the $1600 range. It brings far more to the table from a performance and hardware perspective than the current Mac Book Pro, which starts at $1800 I think.

    Buying a Mac over a PC is like buying an F-150 over a Tundra. It costs more, does less, but it will make you pretty popular with a certain demographic.

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  4. Apr 14, 2018 at 7:31 PM
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    Are you flippen happy you opened up pandora’s box?
     
  5. Apr 14, 2018 at 8:38 PM
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    Ha! I didn't realize you'd already picked a Mac..desktop. I just read the first 10 posts and couldn't stop laughing. Congrats - there is nothing wrong with Mac for general use and if it suits your needs then it's perfect. I don't want to seem like I'm hating on Mac in general just stating that most of the reasons people claim to choose Mac over PC are complete BS. ;)

    Just so you know, I truly am a power user/enthusiast/builder/computer geek. I've been building and repairing computers of all types for over 20 years. The first computer I built that wasn't a Commodore 64 was an intel 386 in 1993. I was 13 years old and my cousin and I saved up from our paper routes and doing odd jobs around the neighborhood. It cost around $3000 total. We also talked my aunt into letting us get our own phone line, which we promised to pay for, so we could dial out to BBS systems on a 14.4k modem. It took about two months for that to get shut down - when we got bored with the local BBS's we started calling all over the country. The phone bill was almost as much as the computer and I don't think either of us slept a wink for 60 days. This is back when it was like making contact with aliens to actually find and speak with people on these BBS systems... It was all discovery for us.

    Nowadays my rigs are a bit more... sophisticated. I have a really nice CAD box at work too, although either of these would be up to the challenge too. ;)

    If you ever want to build a PC and get waaay more for your $$ - hit me up. I have built countless computers for friends, family, and coworkers.

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  6. Apr 15, 2018 at 2:48 AM
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    I think this should be the other way around. Both Toyota and Mac lock up their system. Both Toyota and Mac are more reliable.

    The biggest advantage of PC is the availability of software, especially games. You could always install a dual booting system on a Mac and use any Windows software. I have yet to see a Mac users who actually do that. That would be like buying a Lexus and converting it into a Ford Focus.

    By the way, I work in a technical discipline. I did not buy a Mac for its looks. I prefer to use Mac's, but I have to work with PCs. I swear a lot more when I work with PCs.
     
  7. Apr 15, 2018 at 3:44 AM
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  8. Apr 15, 2018 at 7:10 AM
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    Some of you get sand in your vagina over these haha.
    Loving the iMac so far though! I appreciate everyone’s input!
     
  9. Apr 15, 2018 at 9:12 AM
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    I started building back in the DX33 days :) my first big rig was a 200MHz Cyrix based system :) Right now I have a 2K+ nightmare, specs: thermaptake P5 case ,
    Seasonic 850 platinum, Ryzen 1700 (second one) DD4 2666 16GB, 250GB samsung evo, ASRock Tai-chi MB, VEGA 56 GPU and EKWB water cooling system that is a non-functioning nightmare.

    here is a pic of my half-baked nightmare hanging on my wall :(
     
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  10. Apr 15, 2018 at 1:20 PM
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  11. Apr 16, 2018 at 8:01 AM
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    Nice! I run the same Taichi x370 MoBo and the Ryzen 1700x, 32gb of Corsair DDR4 2666, the Vega RX 64.. We have very similar setups!

    I like your work board and wall hanger.. I made an air tunnel out of cardboard once for a PLEX server while I waited for the case to arrive..

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    @T-Rex266 - My vagina isn't sandy at all. Just wanted to insert some fact and reason into the discussion. You guys should spend your money how you want, you earned it! We can't all drive race cars! ;)
     
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  12. Apr 16, 2018 at 8:05 AM
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    Hold the Line! If you are not holding the line, abandon your ship. Destruction is inevitable without more to hold the line!
    I have had my Toshiba Satellite since 2013, and it has had few issues. No physical issues, mainly just the occasional virus, worm, etc. I imagine it will last me another 3-4 years.
     
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  13. Apr 16, 2018 at 8:30 AM
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    I didn't read all the comments, the benefit of Apple is "Continuity" if you have other Apple devices. Sync'd to your iPhone, you can text and call anyone on your Macbook, the receiver doesn't need to be on an iPhone. Type a Note like a grocery list, and it's automatically on your iPhone when you leave the house, clouded pictures, etc.

    That said, don't take me as a fanboy, I recommend what works based on the user's need. I used to build PC's, I currently run a QNAP server, and we have both Macs/PC's in our home. Apple products are expensive and if it's not the type of budget or you don't need Continuity, get a PC. They also have continuity workarounds.

    Basically anything with a 7 or 8 generation CPU, at least 8GB RAM, at least 128GB SSD, 1080p screen, and metal shell. These are good choices for a small footprint, light to travel, or just to walk around the house, use in bed etc.

    Macbook 12"
    Dell XPS 13"
    Asus Zenbook 14"

    The first 2 have gorgeous screens (I won't get into technical brightness nits and sRGB coverage, the 3rd is still good). Inspect the last 2, a few rare ones have annoying coil whine, youtube it, no CW, you're good to go. If Apple, refurbs from them are new in every way, you won't be able to tell except it comes in a plain brown box not retail white, same 1y warranty.
     
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  14. Apr 16, 2018 at 11:44 AM
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    Do you game or have Discord? I ask because there is to much to discuss here in terms of the issues I have had with this setup, conversely the R1600 rx480 I built my girlfriend went together in an 1.5 hours with zero problems (like most of my builds)

    This is what a properly setup ThermalTake P5 case looks like, they can sit on your desk or mount on the wall like mine.
     
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  15. Apr 16, 2018 at 12:03 PM
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    I do game lightly, and I do have Discord. I'm typically on a couple nights in the week after about 7PM MST. I'm curious what issues you had? I bought the Taichi x370 pre-release so it was a little buggy when I first installed everything, wouldn't accept the OC settings for the memory and wanted to use the default profile. Updating BIOS was a bitch the first time because I had to manually flash it like it was 2004 again, but the update fixed the issue and you can now flash from within a utility.

    I have no experience with the Vega rx56, but I bought multiple x64s on the morning of release. They also needed a bit of extra love until new drivers were released, but now everything runs pretty flawlessly. What issues are you having? I'll PM you a Discord invite when I'm home and on a PC where I use Discord - but I'm curious what the issues were.

    I love workbench style cases, that looks great all put together.. The only time I built a watercooled system I had some faulty hardware that leaked. Nothing was lost but it turned me off to it. I might try again soon.
     
  16. Aug 13, 2018 at 10:49 PM
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    Going to have to revive this bad boy. I recently contacted a guy who builds computers about building one for me. Plan is to run some games including VR for myself, but mostly wanting it for my wife to do photo editing.

    This is the set-up he has planned:
    Ryzen 5 2600 Processor - 6 cores, 12 threads - A beast of a processor for both rendering and gaming

    MSI B450 Gaming Plus Motherboard

    GSkill Ripjaws V Series 2x8gb DDR4 3200Mhz Ram - high speed ram - Ryzen processors benefit from faster ram

    Adata XPG SX8200 NVME SSD - 480gb - very fast M.2 ssd- will be great for quick load times/processing, plus being 480gb, gives you a little storage as well

    Seagate Barracuda 2TB Hard drive - for all your storage needs - pics,files,games,etc

    EVGA 600W Bronze Rated Power Supply- more than enough power, even if you upgrade down the road.

    Phanteks Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass Case - Black

    Windows 10 Home - Installed & Activated
    All the items above are brand new- all boxes /accessories will go with you, so you can register products for warranty with the manufacturers

    I can have the above system built, with windows installed and labour inclusive for $1200. This does not include a video card, GTX 1070 video cards are selling for $599 - $679 brand new depending on which cards are in stock.

    If you want a brand new card, we can add that on, however i do have a few used GTX 1070's in my inventory, i could add one of these for $ 400.

    System price with brand new video card - $ 1200 + $ 667 = $ 1867

    System price with used video card - $ 1200 + $ 400 = $ 1600


    Keep in mind this is in Canadian dollars as well. Thoughts recommendations?
     
  17. Aug 14, 2018 at 7:00 AM
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    What kind of monitor?

    If you want it for your wife to photo edit, an accurate wide color gamut IPS monitor is important. One that is calibrated, Spyder calibrators are always going on sale for <$100 on BHphoto (I’m Canadian and bought it there). Aside from high end NECs and Eizos, there are lower cost Benq, Asus models dedicated to editing.

    The reason being is she wants it to look right on her monitor before anyone else’s. It might seem perfect on her non-calibrated one yet whites might look yellowish and blacks are blotchy on someone else’s more accurate monitor. Or someone sees a complete color range of red on a sunlit rose and if you don’t have a wide gamut monitor, you only see one glob of shade.

    This is important if she does portraits when skin tones need to look accurate and flattering whether it’s a baby, a couple, or a business executive.

    She doesn’t have to get nitty like this but he explains some important concepts in the first 10min.

     
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    not bad. his comments are true. you can get graphics cards for cheaper than that though (the price he lists can get you a 1080 and maybe even a 1080 Ti, not hat i condone it, i'm a Radeon guy).

    I run the 2700X and love it. I also scooped my Sapphire Nitro RX 580 for $240 last month on sale and it rivals the 1070 and runs reeeeally smooth -120FPS on high settings. watch r/buildapcsales for cheap cards. you should also check out r/pcmasterrace, they've got multiple builds on there that can get you similar performance for about 3/4 of that price.
     
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    Yea right now she is looking at a Benq. She is not a professional photographer, so it is mostly photos of our trips, but we do tend to like nice things. And thanks for the tip, this also includes him putting it together for me and testing it as well. I am fine with there being a service fee in there if it is reasonable.
     
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    I wouldn't buy a used GTX 1070 - this is a very commonly used card for mining. Chances are the used 1070 ran long and hot for extremely long periods of time.

    I would upgrade the memory to a 3400 or 3466Mhz - the motherboard is capable of handling a memory profile up to that speed, you should get everything you can out of it. There really is no cost difference.

    Along those same lines - that motherboard is capable of a Ryzen 7 or Threadripper processor. Why not spend a few measly dollars more and upgrade it to a Ryzen 7 2700?

    Corsair is well known for manufacturing top of the line power supplies. You can get a modular power supply with a bit of a buffer (+50w) for about the same price as the EVGA. It has the same efficiency rating. I personally feel it's worth going to a 650w - 800w PSU with gold or better certification. You'll make that extra $60 back in less than a year assuming you allow your computer to run and sleep/hibernate on it's own.

    ADATA makes a great product, I have used them for years for RAM, flash memory, and solid state. Good choice. =D

    I have had bad experiences with Seagate drives. I prefer WD blue for storage and application installs. It's also a bit less expensive.


    I think this is a better build for about the same price:

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    You don't need a guy to build it for you. If you can tie your own shoes, change your own oil, and take some simple precautions you are well suited to built your own system. I understand it may feel like a lot, but the guy building it is literally going to plug a few things in, make sure a couple screws are tight, and power the thing on to install Windows 10 from a flash drive (that is going to be the most technical aspect of the entire install, but Windows has a utility that makes it simple). If you prefer the peace of mind of placing the liability on someone else, I completely understand.

    You could also probably find some of these parts for less $$ if you shopped around or used the tool that @Thee_Oddball did.

    Either way, building a new computer is good times. Hope you enjoy it.

    Also - I would consider the Radeon RX Vega 64, or perhaps even a Radeon RX 580 for your GPU. They are built to work with your mobo/CPU choice, and from a performance perspective are just as capable, if not more so, of complex image/video rendering. You'll probably save a few bones too.

    EDIT***

    Sorry - that should be the Ryzen 7 2700X.

    It's about $90 more than what is in the cart. Grabbed the wrong CPU by mistake.
     

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