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Discussion in 'Detailing' started by Pudge, Mar 24, 2018.

  1. Mar 24, 2018 at 6:05 PM
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    Ant tips or brands that anyone can share? I plan to clay my truck this spring, it's been a long time since I have used clay. Thanks in advance
     
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    I used the nano skin sponge. It’s s lot cleaner than an actual clay bar.
     
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    I just used the Meguiar clay kit and it brought my 11 4Runner back to life!!! I was actually excited when I was done after the wax. Baby is better than my 17 pro paint right meow. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
  4. Mar 24, 2018 at 6:19 PM
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    This is the “new” clay bar. They even have a kit version you stick your hands in.
     
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    Should I be looking into these new synthetic clay blocks, mitts, towels or pads? Seems to be easier and longer lasting that real clay.
     
  6. Mar 24, 2018 at 6:28 PM
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    The nano skin is good for light duty to me. If you use it don't overdue it as I have had some marring in the past when trying use it beyond its limit. When the surface is a little more gone than light I reach for the Clay Bar which most of the time is the Meguiars one since its inexpensive and you can get it at Walmart
     
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    I just use Chemical Guys traditional clay bars. They have different ones for light or heavy correction. The fine blue one has taken everything off, and very easy to work with.
     
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    Clay bars and Nanoskin products. I have the mitt, block, and circular pad. I tried the towel but ever really warmed up to it.

    Make sure you have proper lubricity. Some people use the IronX Gel, notbthe spray, as a lubricant. Kills two birds with one stone...
     
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  11. Mar 24, 2018 at 6:39 PM
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    25% off if you hurry... I have one medium grade but rarely ever use it.
     
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    I was gonna order something today.
    So fine grade?
    Mitt or sponge? Sponge is much cheaper but mitt looks easier and faster to use.

    Thanks everyone
     
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  13. Mar 24, 2018 at 6:52 PM
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    Fine, like @Darth Tundra , and the mitt.
     
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    I tried the nano skin, worked good. I do not view it as a replacement for clay, imo clay removes much more.
     
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    Looks like from my reading, that with the mitt you can use your car wash soap bucket as a lube. While with the towel or pad you need separate lube? Can you verify this @SouthBoundSteve ?
    Should i still buy a clay lube?
     
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    And what do you think about the blackfire clay mitt? Is nanoskin better?
     
  17. Mar 24, 2018 at 8:23 PM
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    I got one of those Surf City pads and was surprised at how well it actually worked. I've done clay before too but I'm prone to dropping it about 5,000 times during the process so the synthetic is the way to go for me.

    Also, I usually use detail spray for lube but used Dawn the last time, which worked just fine.
     
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    I ordered a mitt, some "guzzler" drying towels, microfiber detergent and some stoner glass cleaner / repel. 25% off and free shipping was nice. I now have everything I need to do a nice detail and do it without burning a full weekend. These newer products are amazing, between the clay mitt and spray on / off sealants I will easily save 4 hours of work and it'll look just as good as a good old hand wash, clay, wax.
     
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  19. Mar 25, 2018 at 3:02 AM
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    Thanks all for the information on the clay ,ive been tryong to learn more about thos as ive never used one before but want to get into it for this truck, just alot to comb through on whats good and works VS whats not.still looking for a good starter kit to get most things done,as in wash,clay bar and wax
     
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    You can use soapy water as your lubricant, I have. There was some debate about that but more from a point of it degrading the mitt. I will say this, I don’t use the mitt in place of my Microfiber mitts with washing. Also, I would wash the truck first with a regular wash mitt then use the Nanoskin mitt. You don’t want to just go right to the Nano mitt and push the contamination into your paint.
    As far as the lube, IMO, yes. If you have Echo 2 already, they have a mix rate that you can use it as a clay lube.
    I would also buy a block of clay. As I said earlier, I have both on hand. Sometimes, you just can’t beat clay.
    If Money was an issue and forced to only have one, I would get the clay. Bad thing is if you drop the clay on the ground, toss it. The mitt, you can rinse thoroughly unleash otherwise noted.

    Also, I use a chemical deconning agent so that helps is ridding the surface of the metals and lessens the work for clay and clay alternative.
     
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  21. Mar 25, 2018 at 3:47 AM
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    https://www.detailedimage.com/Auto-Detailing-Guide/Clay-Bar/
     
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    i'm slightly partial to adam's. their combo kit isn't a bad deal. they changed the clay about a year ago and i find that the new stuff works much better. they also have a mitt available but i haven't tried using it. i just like the feeling of the clay.

    the weather is starting to warm up here so i'll be doing the whole enchilada to the truck in a few more weeks.
     
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    Thanks @SouthBoundSteve I have ech2o so I'll use that as a lube after I wash. I would definitely do a normal wash before claying, I did read about some people just using the microfiber side of the mitt to wash, then dip and flip and use the clay side, I can see why that's a bad idea. And i do have a new 100g Mother's clay bar to usenfor tough areas. I also have ironX that i assume I use before the clay. I was going to them wipe down with IPA Eraser and then put on some hydro2...is there something I should put on before or after or instead of the hydro2?
     
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    Thanks @SouthBoundSteve thats great info for a noob like myself!do you prefer a true clay bar to the mitt or other items that are similar?whats the best to use for lube?just clay bar lube or does usimg ironx gain me anything ?lots to learn on detailing that i didn't really consider lol...more money leaving my wallet soon....
     
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    @SouthBoundSteve for a noob like me what do you think of the chemical guys sets they have on Amazon as a base to get some products stocked up then ill add a ckay bar or mitt and a good wax that is hand applied and removed,dont want to buy a buffer too lmao
     
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    I have both clay and the clay alternative and both serve their purposes.
    IF you had to buy just one, I would go with the clay. If you drop it on the ground, just toss it.
    As far as lubrication, I wouldn’t say oNe is better over the other. Fortunately for us, there are many great products on the market. There are also many great products that you can use for clay lube, Waterless wash, Rinseless wash, and quick detailer. It’s just a matter if dilution ratios...:D
    Iron X is a part of the chemical decontamination procedure. It attacks and dissolves the metals that you can not see in your paint. In turn, it will help dissolve the below surface metals that clay bars may not fully pull out. The only thing IronX really doesn’t address will be the other contaminants that are embedded to the surface. Hence the clay bar takes care if that. Iron X stinks to high heaven. Thee are other brands out there like Sonax Fallout Cleaner and others. Some will have a brand preference but IronX seems to be a favorite of those who detail full-time. It really is aggressive. With anything else, just use with caution. Included**********wear gloves, eye, and inhalation protection*********. The masks you can find at Lowes or your favorite store. Did I mention it stinks? :D
    Now, after deconning you may need to address some swirls and such. It all depends on your expectations of what you want. Marring is to be expected...
    As far as brands...whether it is Meguiars, Chemical Guys, Adams, Griots, Car Pro, Optimum, etc...all great brands that will work. I always say, “If you find something that works for you and gives you the desired results, stick with it!” I don’t know if you like to fish but I liken it to when Spring rolls around and the Northern Pike start going bonkers. It seems the flashier the lure the better, that is me sometimes. I have my favorites BUT I’m always ready to try something new.
    Meguiars D 166 is a wax that has polishing capability and is very popular, Collinite 845, Chemical Guys Butter Wax, Adams... All good waxes That can be applied by hand.
    Walmart has some great Megs waxe s that are hybrids. They are waxes that have polymers in them and offer a bit more robust protection.
    Some of the guys on here have used it, I believe, Megs Ultimate Wax or even the NXT 2.0
    Did I miss anything??:rofl:
     
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    That is a lot to soak in lol..thabks for your time and knowledge @SouthBoundSteve .i have nothing atm so im starting from 0n hence my looking for a kit or starter set and want to cover all my bases,i will buy quality stuff but dont want to buy stuff that fools me lol
     
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    Chemical Guys is a good company. If you look around, some of the various detailing sites are having sales too. I know @smslavin gets his stuff from Adams, he had posted above.
    http://adamspolishes.com/shop/kits/washing-cleaning.html

    Here is a link to Detailed Image...
    https://www.detailedimage.com/DI-Packages-C62/

    Autogeek... http://www.chemicalguys.com/Shop_All_Kits_s/361.htm
     
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