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Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by 540tundragirl, Dec 3, 2018.

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    It’s interesting to me that in 4 pages of discussion (primarily about ham and obviously from knowledgeable people) NO ONE mentions SWR meters for CB??

    Just like with HAM (and my knowledge there’s is little to 0) you have to tune a CB radio to make it actually work well and you use an SWR meter to do so.

    I used to have a cobra 19 in my Taco and installed an SWR in line on the antenna wire so I could periodically retune it and I never had issues with range or interference. They’re cheap and easy to understand with about a half hours time and will significantly increase the usability of your radios
     
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    Overkill would be a Stryker or Galaxy. Good radios. I like both. I have a Wilson 5000 magnetic mount that's nice. Can take it down for low clearance.
     
  3. Jun 11, 2019 at 5:34 AM
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    Usually about $25Z0x15wncpEx_.jpg
     
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  4. Jun 11, 2019 at 8:12 AM
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    I've done a little..
    The Cobra 29 I bought has a built in meter I used to tune my antenna to the truck.
     
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    I would like to get a CB for my truck . Im not one of those stuck up HAM-assholes like someone one here is implying...
    I like the Bearcat with SSB. I even have an old fire-stick antenna and mounts, and an ancient inline SWR
     
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  6. Jun 11, 2019 at 8:27 AM
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    Thanks for not being one of "those" guys :thumbsup:
     
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    That looks nice and $25 is definitely reasonable. I don’t remember what brand mine is but it’s about half that size which is great for putting in some tucked away spot
     
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    Um.... I don't know if I would trust that. I have had issues with the radio meter being off
     
  9. Jun 11, 2019 at 8:35 AM
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    I've done a little..
    My CB guy was the one who told me to do it - right after he showed me that it works on his shop antenna
     
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    Huh. The guy I went to said not to . Maybe he just wanted to sell a meter...:rofl:
     
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    @handyman I'm sorry your wife was so badly treated. That's uncalled for, at best, and I hope he was properly chastised by others after your wife got off the radio. As your example proves, all it takes is one bad apple to spoil the bunch.

    But I have to say, I think this was uncalled for too...
    There's a flow to conversations like this. Sometimes its a straight line, sometimes it wavers. Its only natural to talk other options when someone thinks they might be able to raise an awareness regarding another alternative.

    And to generalize a group like you did... not cool. You've had a shitty experience. That sucks. But others, including myself, have had positive experiences and thru the likes of ham radio, or shooting sports, or car/truck forums/clubs... I've met some great people, some of which have become life long friends. I've found if you're willing to ignore the static, and put biases aside, sometimes great experiences result.

    Ha true that! Not a revolver, but here's my wife shooting an M1. I fell in love all over again that day. Now she carries a 1911 and shoots 308 competitively long range (among other things).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh0DAQmjIyI
     
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    GMRS mobile station that works with handhelds. Everyone i know has 2-3 sets of GMRS handhelds, im thinking this plus an antenna would work great for family caravans and around the 300 + acre property.
    Im still keeping the HAM handheld in the truck , too. We are planning a multi-state road trip East out to Montana , Wyoming , Yellowstone , and possibly out to Badlands. I want to have comms and back ups .
    My father in law likes to look for ghost towns and sometimes follows old roads just to see where they go. We've been to some remote spots with no cell service .
     
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    So its Like a cb, diff freq. Are there people on it all over the country? I'm sick of the cb. If you can get someone to talk it usually just foul mouthed. Been looking into something else.
     
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    I used to have a Cobra CB and never really used it as most of my friends had the handhelds which i think are all GMRS.
     
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    Short answer is yes you need a license to operate under the GMRS umbrella.

    Longer answer is... no you don't need a license to transmit (1) on the frequencies shared by FRS and GMRS *if* you stick to the FRS limited legal transmit power levels on those shared frequencies and (2) do not xmt on any GMRS only frequency. If you follow those rules, technically you fall under the FRS umbrella and therefore do not need a license.

    Using the Midland radio linked above would require a license as it doesn't look like it can xmt on FRS/GMRS shared frequencies at levels low enough to fall under the FRS umbrella. The GMRS license is easy to get though; no tests, just $$

    Here's some great info on obtaining the license found from the same link given above: https://nggmrs.org/step-by-step-gmrs
     
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    $70 for a ten year licence. Seems easy enough. Get the licence then get the radio.
     
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    Yep that's the "right" way to do it.

    If you're considering this, spend a little time here, and specifically study the Frequency Table: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Mobile_Radio_Service

    Notice the power levels allowed for GMRS operators. 50w on channels 15 thru 22... my point being it might be worth looking for a mobile station that can xmt at that legal limit. The Midland is 15w max. With a proper antenna setup, you might really benefit from that 35 additional watts you're afforded under your GMRS license. Food for thought.
     
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    So who makes said 50 watt radio, or do I take it to the cb shop and have them turn it up?
     
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    Well, I'm not a GMRS guy specifically. So I don't tend to stay up on GMRS specific radios.

    With that said, I don't think there'd be a way for a cb shop to turn up a 15w radio. Worth asking though.

    Maybe that same shop can advise you on a radio, if they can't turn it up.

    Another idea is to find a local "Ham Radio Outlet" store and go pick their brain. I haven't walked into one yet and not found the folks in there willing to talk your ear off about whatever topic you're interested in (go figure). Just walk in, tell them you're in the process of getting your GMRS license, are a newbie and would like to find a mobile station...

    I do know the BTech GMRS-50X1 has been making a semi splash lately. And I want to say I've heard good things about the Midland MTX-400 (40w max).

    My general impression is that GMRS is an emerging market. And therefore its only in the last couple years that manufacturers are producing radios to meet the demand. And as usual, they're working their way up in power over time.
     
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    Good info. I will look into the licensing later today.
    Mostly I want something for ease of use for all members of the family on road trips . The walkies we have been using are great if you can see the vehicle in front of you , but over 2-3 miles away - its spotty at best.
    I was thinking if i had a mobile base unit and a decent amount of transmit power , I could at least give directions and broadcast to the group
     
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    Yep! What you're describing is exactly why the GMRS umbrella was created; its for people who don't want to screw with the ham radio complexity/crap, but who also want more out of FRS/CBs. Typical government right? Never let a good opportunity to "license" (aka tax) pass.
     
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    So you'd got me looking into GMRS a little more seriously. That led me to YouTube looking for radio reviews, which lead me down a rabbit hole. Then I ran across these. They're by the same guy/channel and IMHO do a pretty good job talking about what GMRS is, why, and covering the basics.

    Part 1 covers GMRS in general. He's a little chatty, but there's some good info in there
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQTQptqusfc

    Part 2 covers the two Midlands we've discussed (MTX275, MTX400) and maybe why the BTech isn't the best choice. Good hands on so you can see the differences to help make up your mind.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTwbjbqP18M
     
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    GMRS is not CB but close regarding not requiring a written test. To obtain a license just fill out an application, pay a fee, and they (FCC) will issue you a call sign good for 10 years which everyone in your immediate family can use. I also like having a low profile 6" (garage friendly) antenna which I can also hit repeaters 30-35 miles away with perfect clarity. Below is a picture of my Tundra GMRS antenna mounted.

    GMRS Antenna .jpg
     
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    Well, I'm going to let it go. This is a discussion about "CB Radios," not ham radio. Didn't even mean for it to drag out as long as it did.
     
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    However, do note despite the higher power output, you're not going to get out any further (than CB) due to the location of GMRS within that higher frequency range (pure line-of-sight between two radio antennas). The repeaters are somewhat worthwhile, but along with that comes a crap load of restrictions very similar to ham radio. Also note there are far fewer to talk to (compared to CB), limiting GMRS mainly to personal or business/commercial communications (the original intent).
     
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    Anyone get feedback/static through their radio when they hit the brakes? Years back I installed a noise filter and that cut engine static through my CB so I'm curious if I should do the same in this scenario?
     
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