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CAM SHAFT TOWER SEAL LEAKING ** PLEASE READ***

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by jacob.jons.jj, Jan 5, 2018.

  1. Mar 4, 2019 at 10:20 PM
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    Blueline

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    Just redesign the cylinder head with integral cam journals and eliminate the intermediate cam tower. Cylinder head directly to block and valve cover. Simple. NO LEAKS!
     
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  2. Mar 5, 2019 at 3:45 AM
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    Yeah I feel the same way. I still have until 100k miles but will be taking mine in soon to have it documented and to start the process.
     
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  3. Mar 5, 2019 at 4:19 AM
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    This x2
     
  4. Mar 6, 2019 at 1:21 AM
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    A group of bean counters tells senior management that the cost of fixing this is greater than the cost of not fixing this.

    The problem continues. Engineering tells senior management “we told you so, you cheap bastards. But you insisted to save $6 bucks per vehicle in grey rather than black sealant.

    Those same bean counter then tell those same senior managers that the cost not to fix this is great than the cost to fix this. Confrence calls start happening on the hour for weeks and asses start to be covered.

    A silent change to the sealant used will be implemented. A soft recall will happen to those that are effected under factory warranty. You get a leak and they fix it.

    The class action law suit will ultimately refund, in a credit against a new vehicle or some such BS, those who paid out of pocket and were not covered under warranty. The settlement will include an extended warranty for the ‘effected X’ parts and labor for the life of vehicle for all those buyers that own the effected motor.

    The problem is with ALL 5.7 V8s in multiple vehicles and brands. A forced recal is going to be very expensive. The labor is days worth and expensive. The cost to fix is 98% labor and 2% parts. Toyota will want to avoid this and decide to fix as needed vs fix all.

    My guess is we are in the early stages of denial, unless severe, then quietly warranty phase of this saga. This will be followed by warranty, if leaking, and complaining about.

    I would suggest a sticky be started that list the following:
    1. Year Truck
    2. Which side at what mileage
    3. OOP expense or Warranty covered and process to get covered
    4. Cost
    5. Dealer used

    Hopefully this gets easier.
     
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    Hats off to this forum. I never would have known about this if I didn't just join last week. I'm dropping mine off Sunday night. Certified Used Toyota Warranty:amen:

    cam1.jpg
     
  6. Mar 6, 2019 at 4:31 AM
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    So true and very sad that's how these things go down. Crazy thing is if they raised the price of the truck what it would cost them for the sealant and it prevented us from having the issue and motors torn down I doubt anyone would complain.
     
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  7. Mar 9, 2019 at 9:09 PM
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    What year is your truck and how many miles? Your gray sealant bead looks exactly like my 2019 with 2100 miles.
     
  8. Mar 10, 2019 at 7:18 AM
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    2019 with 6,500 miles on the clock now. Still bone dry. Crossing my fingers...
     
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    I have a 2012 Tundra DC, 4.6L, 135k.
    Went in for an oil change and the tech noted a Valve Cover leak and a Timing Cover leak.
    How can I be sure that that the Cam Tower is not also affected?
     
  10. Mar 13, 2019 at 4:55 AM
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    Wynnded Wait, what?

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    Clean it, or have it cleaned up. Then drive it some more and keep an eye on it. You could also have the dealer put a UV dye in the oil and then they will have you drive it and bring it back. They'll use a UV light to check for dye leaking out at the mating surfaces.
     
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  11. Mar 20, 2019 at 5:14 PM
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    Taking mine in for some fluid changes, I have it on the work order to double check for any cam tower leak...I did the best myself to check, but without being on a rack, looking thru the wheel well only goes so far. The service advisor I talked to didn't have a clue what I was talking about, or are they told to "act dumb"? I have the 100k / $0 deductible extended warranty so I'm not very worried about it...
     
  12. Mar 20, 2019 at 5:31 PM
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    I would imagine they should know what to look for unless maybe it was just the lube tech handling the job and he isn't familiar with the Cam Tower Leak. Even if that were the case he should have asked someone more experienced to inspect it if he didn't know what to look for.

    I've also got a 100K $0 ded warranty from Toyota, but I'd much rather have it taken care of before the 60K powertrain warranty is up. My service advisor said the extended warranty would also cover the Cam Tower Leak, but I've heard stories where some warranties will not cover gasket failures. Mine is leaking a bit (or "seeping" according to Toyota), on the drivers side, but not bad enough for them to get it approved for repair at this point in time. I'm currently at 38K miles. I'm going to keep pushing at every oil change for them to re-inspect it and get it done before 60K is up.
     
  13. Mar 20, 2019 at 6:28 PM
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    This whole its seeping not leaking is BS, its oil outside the engine where it doesn't belong. Basically they are saying "we acknowledge the issue but its a costly repair come back when its leaking worse and on your dime, have a nice day"
     
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  14. Mar 20, 2019 at 6:50 PM
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    Agree 100%. I spoke to the master tech there while it was up on the lift. He agrees it's leaking, but not bad enough for approval. I guess they need to send pictures to corporate and obtain approval before starting the repair due to the high cost. He did tell me that the leak will always get worse, so just give it a little time and then I'll be able to get it approved. He said once they see oil hit the heat shield it's an easy approval. They at least documented it on my paperwork as seepage noted on cam housing, so I've got something to fall back on later if needed.
     

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