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Calling all bakflip owners

Discussion in 'Tonneau Covers, Caps and Shells' started by rdmobile, Nov 12, 2020.

  1. Nov 12, 2020 at 9:07 PM
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    rdmobile

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    I have a F1 cover on my 13 8' bed. Everyone raves about these covers but my experience has been that they are either junk or just not designed for this truck. Main issue is traveling with the cover up results in the cover coming loose and it has destroyed the sliding brackets/hold downs on the cover, prop rods have loosened up, and on long hauls the whole cover comes loose. Makes me feel like I am doing something wrong here. I have tried all sorts of adjustments. BAK's customer service was of no help troubleshooting this. What is everyone's experience here? Similar issues?
     
  2. Nov 12, 2020 at 9:21 PM
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    Back flipping here. No issues on my 2016. I've had it for years. I've traveled extensively. No issues to date. I know this doesnt help.
     
  3. Nov 12, 2020 at 9:33 PM
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    Had one on my last 2 trucks, and I never trusted the prop rods and didn't like it resting on the back glass to be full open. Thus, if I hauled anything that required it to be fully open, I just unscrewed the front and popped it off. In half open configurations I used bungees to make sure the panels stayed down flat and didn't get wind under them to flip up and cause damage. Otherwise, it was a nice top.
     
  4. Nov 12, 2020 at 9:47 PM
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    Devius1

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    I installed an F1 the 1st week and have had a good experience aside from the occasional readjustment. The front section gets pushed out of alignment from large items hitting it.
    I usually loosen the clamps, close, align, and retighten while closed.
     
  5. Dec 7, 2020 at 10:23 PM
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    rdmobile

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    Maybe with a 8' bed things are different, but mine doesnt sit tight against the cab which I think is part of the issue. Has too much forward and back movement which loosens things up. Maybe the profile is too high as well. For those that dont have issues, what speeds can you run at on the highway?
     
  6. Dec 7, 2020 at 10:55 PM
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    I have an F1 and no issues thus far. Can you post some pictures? By sliding brackets do you mean the 3 brackets on each side that hold the rail to the bedside?
     
  7. Dec 7, 2020 at 11:43 PM
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    jalam321

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    I have bakflip on my Tundra for 8-9 years with no issues. I do sometimes have it fully opened against the rear of cab/glass with no problems going 75-80 on freeway. If only half open, I use bungee cords to hold the cover down, again no issues. The only thing is that, it's not completely water tight, which I knew when I got it. But it keeps my stuff dry enough, only a little water gets in the corners even in bad rain storms. I could probably get some weather stripping to seal it better but it's not that big of an issue for me.
     
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  8. Dec 9, 2020 at 7:30 PM
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    The brackets, sorry bad choice of words, is the sliding retainers on the cover for the prop rods. The cover bounces back and forth on the rods and I guess just work themselves loose or the sliding retainer gets hammered and mushrooms out. I dont know why these arent beefier. Seems like a design flaw to me.

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  9. Dec 9, 2020 at 7:39 PM
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    I was under the impression the back flips were warranties for 5 years. How long have you had it? Was the cover pressed up against the back of the cab or was it kinda free floating when you had it in the “up” position? We just did about a thousand mile trip over thanksgiving with the cover up and it didn’t budge.
     
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  10. Dec 9, 2020 at 7:40 PM
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    That bracket is for sure bent.
     
  11. Dec 9, 2020 at 7:43 PM
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    For what it’s worth it looks set up wrong in this photo. That screw handle should be farther down that elongated hole it looks like for some reason the slider is down too far. The prop rod has leverage on it and makes sense why it popped out. Hold on let me get a picture of mine.
     
  12. Dec 9, 2020 at 7:56 PM
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    My guess is you either have the rails mounted too far toward the tailgate or the cover slid to far towards the cab or maybe a combination of both.

    in my 3rd photo you can see the slider in the position you have in relation to the prop rod. You can see how it would be impossible for me to get it to look like yours since my rod is much higher on the slider assembly than in the photo you posted.
     
  14. Dec 9, 2020 at 8:01 PM
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    As a side note, these covers fit multiple trucks so there is a lot of play in the setup. You can see how much play there is in that slotted silver plate under my cover. It’s not necessarily an adjustment as it is a way to make the cover for multiple trucks. The last skinny panel of the cover should be just behind the front of the bed of the truck, not hanging over.

    this will keep the cover tilted toward the cab more when in the up position keeping weight off the prop rods. The cover should not “bounce back and forth”. It needs to be firmly against the back of the truck as in my last photo.

    for what it’s worth your also missing the rubber boots on the end of the prop rod.
     
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    Hey Tundyfundy, thanks you have been more help than Bakflip. When I contacted them I said hey I think I am doing something wrong help me troubleshoot it and they were of little to no help in that regard. They did end up replacing it under warranty, but whats the point if the cover doesnt work for my needs. What size bed do you have? I think their covers may not be made for Tundra 8' beds. Too tall folded up and dont touch the cab. Here are some more pics of the cover installed as my first dont show the rod angle and all that. I cannot get this cover to stay on its own up against the cab. I have to use the prop rods to hold it against and even then its not tight up against the cab so after driving they work themselves loose. If you PM me I could share some video of the issues and the cover during while going down the highway. Also I do have the rubber caps on the prop rods, those paint scratches happened even with the rubber, that is how bad this thing is moving around. The cover is lined up with the front of the bed, like the instructions said, I could go maybe another 1/2-1 inch forward. If I did that then the tail gate end would have a gap. Currently the cover at that end has one, the last, wiper seal on the tailgate seal touching the edge of the tailgate.

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  16. Dec 9, 2020 at 9:13 PM
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    Oh and those pics were when I had issues with the cover, it had actually slide back from where I installed it. If I remember to I will take some pictures as it is installed now, back in the correct position.
     
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    Do you have a plastic drop in bedliner?
     
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    Nope, I do have a line x spray in liner, but the bed rails and tailgate rails all have the stock plastic caps. Here are pics of the current installed position. While it could go forward some it would expose the gap between the tailgate and the cover. I am trying to avoid that but could try sliding it forward the ~1/2" if folks really think that would make the difference. I doubt it would.

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    And for what its worth when I shared pics of the cover not touching the cab with Bakflip and asked if it was installed correctly they simply stated that this was normal on some trucks and wouldn't cause an issue. I call BS on that one.
     
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    From what I can see the cover is too far towards the tailgate. Here is a pic of mine. The seal touches the tailgate cap just on the inside of where the tailgate cap grooves start.

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    Is it really designed to rest against the cab when fully open? Wouldn’t that put it up against the back window?
     
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    Yes. In this picture OP posted you can see the rubber bumper that’s meant to protect the truck from damage when the cover is up. Also on this video posted by Bak industries you can see towards the end of the video (10:40) that it’s meant to be on the cab. https://youtu.be/yvVCu6KdgcQ

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    OP beware that if you get the cover to sit against the cab correctly that it looks like you are missing some of those protecting bumpers.
     
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    Thanks for all the help, really you guys have been more help than Bakflip. I asked about install and they didnt even respond to those questions. Just a general that sucks, what do you want. I had not thought about the relationship between the rails and the cover. When it warms up I will mess around with that. Certainly not holding my breath though.

    As for the cover bumper against the cab. I am aware, I put that one there as that cover rests against the brake light so pads anywhere else wouldnt do any good, just unnecessary. Yes they are necessary even if the cover doesnt rest against the cab, hit the brakes and watch the cover bang against your cab. That thing moves around a lot, that is why you want it up against the cab.
     
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    So I messed around with adjusting the cover this weekend. The rails are up against the bed, they cannot be moved forward at all. I did move the cover forward some, pretty much maxed out at this point, the prop rods that is.The cover does rest up against the cab with less force from the prop rods that will help some but I am not too convinced it will be truly fixed. FYI the second pic of the front of the rail and thumbscrews, that cover was in the original position. I moved it forward maybe a 1/2". Only thing I can think of at this point is if the prop rods were installed too far back on the rails or too short for a LB cover. Those are the tape measure pics.

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    I installed my Bakflip MX4 today. I had an F1 on my Silverado for 7 years and loved it. Fit and finish on mine is very good, despite the fact that I bought it “used” from Amazon and when it arrived, it had missing parts. That was a little frustrating, but My hat is off to Bakflip who sent me the missing parts free of charge. I saved about $250 over a “new” one, but mine really looked new.
     
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    I just installed the mx4 and it leaks in both corners at the tailgate. I have adjusted it to be as far back as possible. Is this common with these covers? I had the cheap roll up one before and it didn't let any water in.
     
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    I just installed mine as well and have not noticed anything significant. We’ve had some pretty heavy rains recently. The F1 I had on my Silverado, for 8 years, leaked a little but again nothing significant. I think some leakage is expected with these covers. Here is a photo of one corner of my MX4 on my Tundra. FBF2FD72-4E8C-4457-B72B-FA0E84BD1288.jpg
     
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