1. Welcome to Tundras.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tundra discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other Tundra owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Buiding a New Suspension. Please pick it apart.

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Booney, Jun 6, 2021.

  1. Jun 6, 2021 at 1:33 PM
    #1
    Booney

    Booney [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2021
    Member:
    #61481
    Messages:
    268
    Gender:
    Male
    Northern Colorado Mountains
    Vehicle:
    Smoked Mesquite 2021 1794 Off Road TRD
    Please pick this build apart. If there is any problems I want to know about them before I pull the trigger. I think I have thought of everything but it's always good to check with folks that know more than I do.

    I want to put a lift kit on my Smoked Mesquite 2021 1794. The goal is to raise the lift to accommodate 17 inch wheels with Faulken AT3 tires without doing any body trimming if possible. I also want to keep the inside fender walls.


    The front shocks will be Bilstein 6112 set at 2.5 inches and one 1/2 inch spacer on each side. I already measured and I don't have the left side "Tundra lean". The rear shocks will be 5160's with an adjustable shackle set at one inch. Not sure if I will need spacers for the bump stops because of the spacer but it so I can include them.


    Tire specs:
    LT285/75R17 Load E Service Desc 121/118S Approved Rim Width 7.5 - 9.5 Rim Width 8 Overall Diameter 33.9 Overall Width 11.1 Revs Per Mile 617 Tread Depth/32nds 18 Tire Weight 65.5 Max Load Single/Dual 3195 / 2910 Max Pressure PSI 80

    These tires are actually pretty close to the weight of the stock tires at 65.5 pounds as compared to the stock 60.2 pound tires. The wheels have a +15 degree offset as compared to the stock offset of +60.

    [​IMG]
    https://www.tiresandwheels.com/prod...=2020&c-make=1196&c-model=Tundra&c-vid=287012

    Or

    [​IMG]
    https://www.tiresandwheels.com/product.php?cat_id=380&scat_id=8368&item_id=218117&c-vid=287012


    I will have fender flares that offer 2.25 inches of coverage from the stock fender. I don't want the tires to stick out beyond the fender flares. I am going to color match the fender flares.

    [​IMG]
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086XG2KTN/?coliid=I3BVFTMP8ORB2A&colid=1VQHG2J6MSU81&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it



    My truck presently:

    20210411_092659.jpg

    Any thought, criticisms, questions?

    Thanks in advance.
     
    D4x4TRD likes this.
  2. Jun 6, 2021 at 2:32 PM
    #2
    Gravy

    Gravy Cat herder, ASCM #π

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2021
    Member:
    #58774
    Messages:
    651
    Gender:
    Male
    Yucaipa, California
    Vehicle:
    2008 White DC 4x4, Limited TRD
    OME Nitrocharger/2612 (front), Bilstein 5100s (rear). Vanguard roll bar modified (by me) to fit over Patriot Stealth retractable tonneau. Aftermarket halo headlights with HID, various LED bulb replacements. 17" Fuel Blitz wheels with some 33" Nitto terra grapplers. Hoodscoop, nfab nerfbars, Bushwacker flares. No-name aftermarket grille, led fender extensions. Black Horse bambi-basher. Various offroad lights.
    Those rims will look good with your truck color. The bottom set matches my aesthetic more, nice choice either way. I drive a 2nd gen so I don't know if the numbers are the same, but I've got 17x9s at offset 1 and some nitto terra grapplers at 285/70r17 and they come out exactly to the edge of my bushwacker flares.
     
    Booney [OP] likes this.
  3. Jun 6, 2021 at 5:07 PM
    #3
    Booney

    Booney [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2021
    Member:
    #61481
    Messages:
    268
    Gender:
    Male
    Northern Colorado Mountains
    Vehicle:
    Smoked Mesquite 2021 1794 Off Road TRD
    Thanks for the response.

    I agree with you on the looks of the bottom wheel. I am leaning that way.

    I used this web sight and it shows that that outside of a +25 offset wheel moves out just at 2 inches compared to stock. My wheel is.75 inches inside the fender now. That would put my wheel at about 1.75 inches poking out of the wheel well. Of course I might be all wrong too. Not that that's ever happened before (it has).
     
  4. Jun 6, 2021 at 5:27 PM
    #4
    Black

    Black Raised Hands Surround Us. 3 Nails To Protect Us

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2020
    Member:
    #55705
    Messages:
    601
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2014 Tundra Limited CrewMax
    Falcon Leveling System, Coachbuilder +1s, RCI Skid Plates
    What are you wanting out of the truck?
    A little bit of lift and a mediocre ride?

    While Bilsteins are decent, that is all they are.

    I would also not buy any other rear shackles than the Coachbuilders in the height that you want. They are great shackles.

    The Wildpeaks are really good tires and you’ll be happy with them.
    Though that is a little bit of an odd ball size limiting your options.
     
    Sunnier likes this.
  5. Jun 12, 2021 at 3:49 PM
    #5
    Booney

    Booney [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2021
    Member:
    #61481
    Messages:
    268
    Gender:
    Male
    Northern Colorado Mountains
    Vehicle:
    Smoked Mesquite 2021 1794 Off Road TRD
    You might be right on the Bilsteins. The gave me a 12 week wait time. Going to completely revise the build after some thought.

    Coachbulder doesn't give me the height that I need for a shackle.
     
  6. Jun 12, 2021 at 7:39 PM
    #6
    Black

    Black Raised Hands Surround Us. 3 Nails To Protect Us

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2020
    Member:
    #55705
    Messages:
    601
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2014 Tundra Limited CrewMax
    Falcon Leveling System, Coachbuilder +1s, RCI Skid Plates
    What are you wanting out of the build that you NEED more than 1.75” of lift in the rear?
     
  7. Jun 12, 2021 at 7:46 PM
    #7
    joonbug

    joonbug bacon

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2015
    Member:
    #1948
    Messages:
    16,096
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Joon
    NorCal - Dublin
    Vehicle:
    2020 Limited DoubleCab
    The lean usually doesn’t show up until after the lift. Might want to prepare for that.
     
    Booney [OP], Casper3 and Barrett50 like this.
  8. Jun 12, 2021 at 8:07 PM
    #8
    B33

    B33 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2020
    Member:
    #51229
    Messages:
    74
    Gender:
    Male
    I have a 2nd Gen and run 5100s and 285 70 R17 fit rear is stock it works for me its my hunting truck so nothing extrema
     
  9. Jun 12, 2021 at 9:24 PM
    #9
    Booney

    Booney [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2021
    Member:
    #61481
    Messages:
    268
    Gender:
    Male
    Northern Colorado Mountains
    Vehicle:
    Smoked Mesquite 2021 1794 Off Road TRD
    It want 2 inches of lift in the back for more rake with the 3.5 inches of lift from the shocks in the front.
     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2021
  10. Jun 12, 2021 at 9:36 PM
    #10
    Booney

    Booney [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2021
    Member:
    #61481
    Messages:
    268
    Gender:
    Male
    Northern Colorado Mountains
    Vehicle:
    Smoked Mesquite 2021 1794 Off Road TRD
    Yeah. thought about that already. Just waiting to see how much it is before I put the shims in. We have a bet whether it is more or less than half an inch. Loser has to buy the shim or shims.
     
    joonbug likes this.
  11. Jun 12, 2021 at 10:15 PM
    #11
    Booney

    Booney [OP] New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2021
    Member:
    #61481
    Messages:
    268
    Gender:
    Male
    Northern Colorado Mountains
    Vehicle:
    Smoked Mesquite 2021 1794 Off Road TRD
    I tried to order the Bilstein 6112 and they told me the wait would be around 12 weeks. Waiting is something that I have been doing a lot of in a lot of areas lately. I don't want to wait that long.

    I can't seem to find Grid Wheels from a dealer that doesn't have shipping issues. I don't want another online long distance argument about late shipping. Those kinds of situations just get frustrating.

    For shocks I am between Fox 2.5s and Bilstein 8112s. Not sure which I want yet. The Fox will give me up to 3 1/2 inches of lift in the front. The Bilsteins will give me up to 3 1/4 inches of lift in the front. I am leaning towards the Fox shocks.

    Fox shocks:
    Front -FOX 2.5 Factory Series Coilover Reservoir Shock Set - 880-02-947
    https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/fox-2...voir-shock-set-880-02-947/_/R-BKTK-880-02-947


    Back -Toyota Tundra FOX 2.5 Factory Series Reservoir Shock Set - 883-24-006
    https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/fox-2...voir-shock-set-883-24-006/_/R-BKTK-883-24-006

    The Bilstein 8100 series has a different part number shock for each corner so it has 4 different shocks for the set.

    Toyota Tundra Bilstein B8 8112 ZoneControl CR Front Right Corner Module - 41-284551
    https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/bilst...ht-corner-module-41-284551/_/R-BBGL-41-284551

    Tundra Bilstein B8 8112 ZoneControl CR Corner Module (Driver Side) - 41-284544
    https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/bilst...dule-driver-side-41-284544/_/R-BBGL-41-284544

    Toyota Tundra Bilstein 8100 Series Rear Left Bypass Shock Absorber - 25-284539
    https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/bilst...s-shock-absorber-25-284539/_/R-BBGL-25-284539


    Toyota Tundra Bilstein 8100 Series Rear Right Bypass Shock Absorber - 25-284522
    https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/bilst...s-shock-absorber-25-284522/_/R-BBGL-25-284522


    I couldn't find an online shop for the Grid wheels that I trust so I changed my mind. I think I am going to get bronze and black Fuel Coverts. I changed the fender flares as my tires won't stick out so much. I am sticking with the original size tires. I am going with the Pro Form shackles that will give me a full 2 inches of lift. I am still trying to figure out if I want new bump stops or air gags for the rear shackles.

    FUEL Off-Road D696 Covert Wheel, 18x9 with 5 on 150 Bolt Pattern - Bronze / Black - D69618905657
    https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/fuel-...onze-black-d69618905657/_/R-DLDJ-D69618905657



    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2021
To Top