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Brake upgrade?

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by ToyotaTundraMike, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. Feb 28, 2017 at 9:01 AM
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    Anyone else notice how shitty the brakes are on the 3rd gens if you actually have to slam on it and not just braking for a light or sign?

    Tried to avoid hitting an animal and punched the brakes and it made a horrible noise and slid a bit before I stopped (paved road). Did the same thing the only other time I had to brake fast too.

    Running stock rims and 275's so not a whole lot of extra weight. Any suggestions?
     
  2. Feb 28, 2017 at 9:18 AM
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    Oh yeah. They make a HORRIBLE sound when you brake fast. Same with my 2nd gen.

    Getting my truck serviced and if I need new rotors, probably getting powerstop with OEM pads.
     
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  3. Feb 28, 2017 at 9:19 AM
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    I think it's a momentum issue rather than brakes... if they're good enough to lock up - bigger better brakes will still lock them up. With all things being equal after that, the next coefficient of friction to slow you down is tire size. These are big, heavy trucks - there's a ton of energy to dissipate getting them to stop. I've only had to stamp on mine a couple of times and was surprised at how fast i came to a stop - nowhere near as fast as my wife's old coupe but impressively quickly for a full size truck.
     
  4. Feb 28, 2017 at 9:35 AM
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    Noise is the ABS, and I personally thought the Tundra brakes were pretty good.
     
  5. Feb 28, 2017 at 9:37 AM
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    I was thinking that the brakes on this truck are some of the best OEM setups.
     
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    Im with the op. Im used to braking last minute & feel that it takes almost full pressure of the pedal to stop. And i also agree that it's momentum of this heavy truck. Was thinking of upgrading my brakes once the oem stuff wears
     
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    Makes me wonder if people have bigger tires or something.
     
  8. Feb 28, 2017 at 10:13 AM
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    Oh I'm not trying to come off as badmouthing the Tundra compared to other brands, I have only ever driven Toyota besides my dads 06 GMC 2500 and I definitely prefer the Tundra brakes. It will probably just take some getting used to since my 4runner and 1st gen Tundra were significantly smaller and stopped a lot quicker. Was just wondering what options were there that may help out if any.
     
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  9. Feb 28, 2017 at 10:16 AM
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    1st gen Tundra definitely stopped quicker, but then it was a much smaller truck. My 3rd gen Tundra does stop better than my 2014 Silverado did. But it does take some getting used to. I like to think of the newer Tundra as more 'controlled'...
     
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  10. Feb 28, 2017 at 10:18 AM
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    Every manufacturer has different brake pedal feel. My Lexus and Tacoma have a very light feel and if slammed on, hold on.

    My GMC has a hard brake feel and needs more effort. Brakes well, just different feel.
     
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    Love the brakes on my Gen 3 EXCEPT when the ABS activates. Seems like it wants to activate too easily.
    Of course, I grew up without ABS brakes and learned to control my vehicle without them while braking.
    I guess the automotive engineers will say the vehicle will stop in a shorter distance with ABS than without
    but it's never felt that way to me.
     
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  13. Mar 1, 2017 at 3:01 AM
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    Yeah i agree with rockjock. The abs brakes dont feel right. You can buy upgraded rotors and pads for way less than the above link. Im sure Some have passed thru here.
     
  14. Mar 1, 2017 at 6:02 AM
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    I've never been a fan of ABS. The first vehicle I had with it was a 1992 Chevy K5 Blazer. It was a little freaky the first time I had to hit the brakes hard and the pedal went all the way to the floor as the ABS took over and started the tell-tale buzzing as it surged the brake pressure on each wheel. From them on, I've tried whenever possible to avoid making it activate on any subsequent vehicles. I haven't had to slam on the brakes on the Tundra yet, but so far mine feels like a very substantial braking system. Seems to me, that if wheels are locking up, the brakes are doing just fine and as stated earlier, it's a momentum thing. Now, if they weren't slowing the vehicle down properly, it could well be a braking problem. Could be something as simple as the new brake pads weren't properly broken in. Very few drivers know that a new vehicle and/or a new set of brake pads need to properly broken in. If not, then they will glaze over and will not offer good braking power. Not sure what brand tires the OP has, but that could also factor in to the stopping power. They could have a harder compound and therefore be more prone to skid. Several things could be the issue, but it definitely seems to be the size and weight of the truck itself.
     
  15. Mar 1, 2017 at 9:09 PM
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    I think my gen 3 has plenty of stopping power. Hit the brakes hard the other day and watched as the nose of the truck dived down as I was braking. Whenever I have to replace the pads and rotors, I will prolly go with ebc pads and slotted rotors. I have been putting ebc on my and wife's vehicles and not had a complaint.
     
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    Mine feel like if you get on them hard it'll stop well, but yes, it "feels" heavy. Sometimes if I'm coming to a stop and am coming in slow the pedal feels like it wants to go almost to the floor. I sometimes have to pump them to re-engage to get the stopping power I need. I don't know much about brakes...might this be the ABS or air in the lines? It only has 2500 miles and doesn't seem to be improving or getting worse.
     
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    I wonder if there is some differences in braking components between 2nd gen and 3rd gens?
     
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    What year did they switch to Gen 3? I had a '12 and it didn't feel like these
     
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    3rd gen started with the 14's. My 13 stops great, with a much more controlled feel than my 2000. The new truck weighs what, like 1500 lbs more and stops better. 26k on it and the brakes are fine with lots of life left. 2000 had a recall, bigger calipers and pads, the upgraded pads and rotors needed to be replaced again after another 20k. So, I'm happy with the 2nd gen! I don't know about any changes to the 3rd gens, kinda doubt it.
     
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    I had stock 275 65 R18 rims tire, Now I run 275 65 R20 tires rims and Emergency braking is the same for
    both set ups. There is an upgrade brake calipers and piston set up which would help greatly. but the cost isn't worth the difference.
    Try this.. Hold your abs button for 6sec until your abs track lite up on dash. now your computer free... emergency brake at 20 mph
    then restore your computer control,. Push track button ... now emergency brake at 20 mph again... the computer will make all the difference in the world for our heavy framed trucks.
     
  21. Mar 28, 2019 at 8:07 AM
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    My tacoma brakes were really touchy, i miss it, i feel like i have to fred flinstone off freeway exits in the tundra, and i hate feeling like im riding the brakes. just because its a heavier truck doesnt mean brakes can't work efficiently. when brakes are due im going to look at other options.
     
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  22. Mar 28, 2019 at 8:20 AM
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    I’m glad this got brought up, my 2005 has got some terrible breaks. I wonder if anyone out there has upgraded to a newer Toyota and after owning both is able to comment on the third generation versus the first on stopping power.
     

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