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Body lift options under 3"

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014+)' started by Username, Jan 14, 2020.

  1. Jan 14, 2020 at 9:52 PM
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    Hello All,

    I am reaching out, because I have exhausted my efforts in search of a 1" or maybe 2" max body lift kit for the 3rd Gen.

    I hate it has come to this, but I need to take a little bit of lift out of my front suspension and this is the only other option to keep my 37x13.50's on the truck.

    But I have roughly 350 miles on the truck right now and already had to replace a CV, because the CV boot blew on a road trip.

    So I am looking to take 1-2" out of the front suspension between to get my angles back to palatable angles. But need to go back together with a 1-2" body lift to clear my 37x13.50's.

    Worse comes to worse if there is not any options I will just lower suspension and switch to a 35x12.50.

    Current Suspension Mods for Reference
    7" BDS Kit w/ Fox Coilovers
    SPC Adjustable Upper Control Ams
    3" Deaver Springs
    1" Total Chaos Shackle
    .5" Coach Builder Shim Kit (2 Driver Side-1 Passenger Side)
    Coach Builder Heim Joint Outer Tie Rod Ends

    Thank ahead of time.

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  2. Jan 14, 2020 at 10:24 PM
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    Jeez, you that tall?
     
  3. Jan 14, 2020 at 10:41 PM
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    The truck is massive, it turned out a lot bigger than I truly anticipated. The little shark fin piece on the roof is like 91", shit I am 6' 2" and I am just at the top of the mirrors. I in all transparency regret, I the overall build, but I am to far in it at this time. Even after the re-gear to 5.29 it is a nightmare around town and shit on the highway forget it, you need sheep dogs to keep the thing between the lines. lol

    Plus the TSS shit itself for the first 100 miles.

    Past 2 weeks I have contemplated throwing it on Ebay for like 62k, taking the huge loss, like more than half, I put into it and just starting another 2020 build.

    "End of Rant"

    Suspension wise I should have just done
    Icon Stage 4 Coil-Over kit w/AAL
    Custom Diff Drop
    SPC Adjustable Upper Control Ams
    Coach Builder Heim Joint Outer Tie Rod Ends
    18x9 wheels and a 35x12.50

    With the needed supporting mods of course and it would have been a lot more daily driveable. Shit I have had the truck for 2 months and it has 350 miles that should say something.
     
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  4. Jan 15, 2020 at 1:42 AM
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    Whats wrong with the 529's ? That has nothing to do with keeping it between the lines.
    Shouldn't be that hard to figure out your issue, lots of people have come before you without the issues you describe.

    FWIW, I'm on the hunt for a 1" body lift myself, I did a 3" lift and stuffed 37X13.5's under it and need just a little more room.
     
  5. Jan 15, 2020 at 4:12 AM
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    Just a shot in the dark, but isn't the diff drop for correcting the CV shaft angles?
     
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  6. Jan 15, 2020 at 5:08 AM
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    Quote me if I'm wrong but BDS should have supplied a big diff. Drop in the kit. A close neighbor has this same kit I'm going to try to look at it soon just to see what his cv angles look like. Just a side note I wouldn't do a body lift they really do not look good.
     
  7. Jan 15, 2020 at 5:40 AM
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    Good morning. Nice looking Tundra! I had a very similar size tundra with the 7” pro comp , coilovers, 37” x12.5” tires, 22x12” Rim’s and a -51 offset. I did have the carrier drop for the driveshaft, coach builder shims, coach builder steering ends and a body chop mount installed. The body shop mount was a must otherwise the tires rubbed.

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    So heres my questions on your setup. Did you have a body mount cut yet for clearance? What’s your rim size & offset? Where is the tire rubbing at the moment? Did they move or trim your front inner fenders yet? Any pictures would be a great help. Hopefully we can figure out a solution on here.

    Here’s a photo of my front suspension when it was installed. Did you replace your UCAs?
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  8. Jan 15, 2020 at 6:39 AM
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    Sorry Rockmup, I believe my little rant may have caused some confusion there.

    The 5.29's restored a lot of the drive-ability/power the truck originally had, but around town the truck still does not feel as lively after the Nitro 5.29 gear set as it did when it was stock. But hopefully a supercharger will help with that.

    Secondly the gears have nothing to do with keeping it between the lines, I have a feeling that is due to an alignment issue. But the shop says its perfect; however, I have yet to see the alignment sheet. (I need a second opinion and to do more research on my end though)

    I just hope we can find a 1" body lift solution to alleviate some our issues.

    The BDS 7" kit did come with a full front and rear cross member drop bracket kit, I mean the BDS kit itself is money! The angles are just crazy.
     
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  9. Jan 15, 2020 at 6:59 AM
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    The BDS 7" kit I have came with a complete new front and rear cross member, that can only be fitted if you cut out the factory ones. The kit does drop the differential a substantial amount, but even so, my CV angles are still very sharp. So I am looking to take some pre-load out, maybe an inch or an inch and a half, then add in a 1" body lift to substitute for the loss in suspension lift.

    If you are able to look at his kit I would greatly appreciate that, because sifting through google images I cannot find a lot of pictures, regarding CV angles after the BDS kit with Coach Builder Shims.

    Thank 1UPPER for the response, my setup and your previous are very similar.

    The truck does have a BMC, it almost looks like the same person that did mine, did yours. They are that similar in style of BMC.

    To answer a couple of your questions

    BMC- Yes
    Tire- Nitto Ridge Grappler 37x13.50x22
    Wheel-Hostile Rage 22x12 -44 offset with a 4.77 backspacing
    Current Rubbing- None, but once I take 1"-1.5" of pre-load out of the front suspension it will.

    I pick the truck up this evening, I will take some very detailed pictures and post them for you to see.

    If my tire was a 12.50 that would make things easier for sure, the shop in Boise that has done a ton of these tells me it is the 13.50 that is getting me. That its only and inch, but with that offset its just enough.

    (On a side note, did you have any issues with your CV's, because they look like they are sharper angles than mine.

    Thanks again and I will get those posted
     
  10. Jan 15, 2020 at 9:34 AM
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    Did you get aftermarket Upper Control Arms installed on your lift? This makes a big difference on the geometry of the suspension!
     
  12. Jan 15, 2020 at 9:49 AM
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    Thank you very much! I really appreciate that! I will check this out ASAP.

    100% I would never do any kind of lift without UCA. I did the SPC UCA, so I have camber and caster adjustments.
     
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    I put just over 90k miles on my previous tundra with the suspension and wheels done from day one. I had no issues with the CV angles. My truck drove very smooth. Only issue I had was the body mounts, so I had them cut to remove the rub at full crank.
     
  14. Jan 15, 2020 at 10:01 AM
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    Hmmmm, I wonder if 12.50's would help then vs my 13.50's.

    I am picking the truck up tonight after the CV's are replace and another alignment from a different facility.

    But maybe switch to 37x12.50's, take .75" of pre-load out of the Fox coil-overs and do the .75" body lift puck Spvrtan did. Because I can adjust the bumper .75" with a drill bit and that might solve all my problems.

    I will grab some detailed pictures in the AM though and get y'alls opinion.
     
  15. Jan 16, 2020 at 3:26 PM
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    Picture 1- shows the CV angles currently as the truck sits

    Picture 2- wheel straight in wheel well

    Picture 3- close up of clearance between rear part of front fender (Note still need to have 2nd piece of BMC welded in once truck is dialed in height wise)

    Picture 4- close up of clearance between front fender liner/ fog light splash shield.

    Picture 5- full lock left turn, clearance between front fender liner/ fog light splash shield

    Picture 6- full lock right turn, clearance between rear part of front fender and body mount

    Picture 7- shows the modification made to front fender liner/ fog light splash shield

    In addition in picture 6 you can see there has been heavy modification done to inner body/ fender liner

    As you can see I have plenty of clearance now. But after I take .75"-1" out of pre-load it will be very close. However, I got the information for the .75" body lift. I am going to knock this out over the coming weeks and report back.

    Sorry truck is a little dirty with all the snow we have had.

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  16. Jan 16, 2020 at 3:49 PM
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    Subb’d for the small body lift. Ive got a 7” pro comp and i want to get a little taller without messing with my cv’s but i was thinking about putting the full 3” performance accessories kit lol
     
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    Btw did u do the tie rod ends at the same time as ur lift, or were they added on after? (Wondering if they made a noticeable difference)
     
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    @vegas4x4 what wheels are those ? Off set and size . I'm looking at some similar made by hardrock called pain killer they will be 22x12 -44.
     
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    Theyre XF-Offroad 204 in 24x14 -76. I googled those wheels and they look nice. They’ll look really good on ur rig
     
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    I think so here is my photo shop job on them lol 20200116073117.jpg
     
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    I was thinking yours where 24" they are really nice good looking truck .:thumbsup:
     
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    You should show off your truck and wheels on custom offsets.com when ever anyone looks at those wheels they can see your set up it's pretty cool.
     
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    Pretty legit photoshop skillz lol. They sort of remind me of fuel mavericks but i like these better
     
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    Yea I like those as well but the spokes most of the time on those come all the way to the edge these have more lip. I want to run a 35x13.5 tire so I don't get into curbs with them. I'm sure it would happen to me if I domt have some tire to protect them.
     
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    Im constantly worried that I’ll curb my wheels. My fault though because i wanted a stanced look. When these tires wear out I’ll put more meats.
     
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    OP, I’m not going to be any help with the 1-2” body lift, should you want to go 3” I can give you any info you need since I have one. What I can offer you is slight piece of mind with the “keeping it between the lines”, with any big lift, offset wheels and wide tires I don’t care what alignment place you go to your truck is going to wander. Keeping it aligned is a never ending battle, I have 17” of lift, 14” being suspension and my current alignment is less than 6 months old and it already needs to be redone. Toe is impossible to keep straight. Going tall creates problems for sure, it’s how much you want to pay to play. I hope you figure out a way to be happy with your truck so you don’t have to sell it, it’s a gorgeous ride. :thumbsup:
     
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    I did have it all installed at the same time, but I can tell you its a bug difference based off driving my buddies Tundra.

    I will let you know good sir, I really appreciate the feedback in regards to the wandering issue though. I know next time not to go so crazy on a daily driver.
     
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