Blown engine

The only way forward is to call a lawyer and sue their asses for all the grief you have been through. I am sure they will end up paying more at the end than what your payments were.

Edit: and don't forget to mention Jenifer Shoebottom personally in the lawsuit.

 

I’m one of the lucky ones with a bad one. I shoulda bought a lottery ticket!

 

I’m Thinking it’s probably the first couple hundred out the factory. They probably caught the mistake after that. No doubt Toyota knows all about it.

 

And if you win…. Buy a new Tundra!!

 

I honestly think I’m over the whole turbocharged V6 gas engines. I think I’ll hold out a bit and drive a used truck and wait and see what they do with the tundra.

 

Sorry but something doesn't add up in this whole account. I'm not saying that the OP is lying, but I think that the story has some holes in it.
For starters, the OP says that he does his own oil changes. And also mentions that he had "low steering fluid" messages displayed on the dashboard. Shouldn't a person who does his own maintenance realize that his Tundra has no steering fluid at all as it has electrically assisted power steering? Or, is a person who can't distinguish between hydraulically assisted and electrically assisted power steering qualified to perform oil changes correctly? I certainly wouldn't trust a mechanic who tells me that my electrically assisted power steering is low on fluid. Just saying ...

 

I don’t think the op ever stated he was a mechanic and if it was anything the owner did, you better believe the dealer and Toyota are quick to point that out. The truck had the same issue others are having. So stop trying to discredit the op and go troll somewhere else.

 

Changing oil on a vehicle isnt something you need a certified blah blah mechanic for. Its routing maintenance on a gas engines. Do you have to have a certified gas attendant to properly fill your car? How about a wiper technician to replace those wipers?

If a message on the dash board came up complaining about that, I'd sure as heck look and say oh fudge whats that about. I'm no mechanic but I am not afraid to turn a wrench. I do my own oil changes, brakes, transmission flushes etc.

Now I know we trust those dealers but you do realize that the guy who changes the oil is most likely the lowest skilled person they have there. Not to say they arent there to learn but skill wise its just how they roll. The more experience mechanics are handling the more complicated jobs that they can bill for.

 

Case in point, they left my oil cap off after an oil change. How hard is it to put an oil cap back on? They had to wrecker my vehicle from my house. Redo the oil change, clean everything up. Then they towed it back.

 

Let's hope not. I'm rocking an 11/21 build date and was the first 3rd Gen Tundra customer delivery at my dealership. lol.

 

How many miles are on yours? Mine made it 44k.

 

22k. My daily commute is ~110 mile round trip and I've been on five ~1k trips so far for some trail adventures.

Thankfully, my wife bought an EV in July last year and she now works about a mile down the road from me. So I eased off on using the truck for daily commuting since we carpool together now. haha.

 

So a good friend of mine who has been a Master ASE etch for years and just bought a 23 v6 Tacoma. When I showed him the 1st photo above and mentioned some tundras Nuking themselves, he looked at the Tundra v6 engine vs the Tacoma v6 designs and said because the Tundras has a longer stroke designed for more torque, The rods would be under more stress than the rods in the Tacoma v6. This could also mean more stress on the bearings. Not sure why some have died but this is just a hunch. Maybe there will be a recall where Toyota beefs up the bearings...maybe made from another material?? etc etc Lets see what happens over the next 6 months. After all, Toyoda stood by the old Tacomas when those frames were all rotting away.

 

Toyota will usually stand by their product with warranty enhancements when they have a class action on their hands. There would have to be significant failure rate for that. Keep fingers crossed for long term reliability.

 

A longer stroke increases the duration period that the piston and everything attached to that piston is subjected peak cylinder pressure that generates thrust on all of those parts. Simply put it takes longer for the crank journal to swing far enough to get meaningful downward movement on the piston because of the geometry of the longer stroke. This will be exacerbated if the engine is being lugged at low RPM and high throttle under load. Higher engine speeds are actually your friend here because that will reduce the time duration of the piston more or less effectively sitting at top dead center under full cylinder pressure. That energy needs somewhere to go, and if it doesn’t have a desired path (like pushing the piston down and rotating the crank) it will take whatever is the path of least resistance. Like hammering the bearings that are softer than the pistons, rods, and journals.

Engines designed to make big torque from high cylinder pressures at low RPM usually have massive main bearing journals and crank journals to spread that force out on. They also tend to not be V configuration engines that necessitate two piston/connecting rod assemblies sharing a journal.

Toyota should have given us an inline 6 with individual connecting rod journals, and 7 main bearings. There’s a reason high torque engines in commercial applications tend to be inline 6’s whenever possible.

 

YES Inline 6s for the Win!

 

More than 140,000 third gen trucks built. Maybe 4 or 5 failures. Definitely get the lotto ticket with those odds.

 

The new Hurricane inline sixes in the Grand Wagoneer are buttery smooth, 10 times silkier than this V6. Compact 3.0-liter inline-six, 510 horsepower and 500 lb.-ft. If those roll out to Rams, Toyota is going to be like "damn, why didn't we do that?"

 

Coal Dragger’s got this figured out and few seem to pay attention. This is potentially a design issue with safety factor - not bad parts.

Watch some tear down videos, you’ll quickly see spun bearings come from loss of oil pressure or too much power being pushed through the engine.
Rarely see too much power being the issue in a non-modded N/A engine. Almost always turbo engines you see this (where ppl get the over stressed thing from).
These failures are happening with more miles. This makes me think wherever they are getting their oil changed - the oil isn’t meeting specs. The oil doesn’t have to be very far out of spec for this kind of failure
to pop up. Most likely - oil even at a Toyota dealer bought in bulk, cheapest possible 0W-20 is ultimately causing these failures. Maybe it’s just me, but dealerships, especially new car ones, shouldn’t be allowed to buy the cheapest bulk oil and not use officially Toyota motor oil or high quality synthetics. But they do, and it’s cheap and likely lacking across the board. The engines aren’t designed anymore to allow poor quality oil. You’ll see this a lot more in the future I’m afraid.

 

I still suspect this is a batch of out of spec, or improperly installed bearings.

Start with the most simple explanation first.

 

I agree with you

 

If there are more failures, it will get to a point where the bean counters step up and start the recall process. The huge cost to fix one of these engines will catch up and it may be cheaper to drop the oil pan and swap the bearings if that would even make a difference or perhaps a different oil or oil change frequency or increase the rpm in all the drive modes before shifting.

If dekeman is correct or even close with the number of failures, this might not trigger any preventative action. However, if this becomes a safety issue, that could push for more action from Toyota.

 

If there is any safety issue whatsover — even on a very small number of trucks — Toyota will be highly motivated to issue a recall before NHTSA gets involved.
The decision to conduct a recall to fix a safety problem is made voluntarily by the manufacturer, unless NHTSA or the courts order them to do so, but they all err on the side of caution.

And you can be sure @ryanwgregg will post the info before Toyota gets it to you.

 

I’m curious what OP traded for