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Best Gen-ECGS bushing tool

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by FrenchToasty, Jan 4, 2020.

  1. Jan 24, 2020 at 2:55 PM
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    FrenchToasty

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    It’s a rather simple process. The reason I didn’t do any kind of write up is;
    I’m not very articulate with words or being able to describe things sometimes, I didn’t have any confusion on what to do because there is already a well done video that explains in detail every single process from start to finish. I didn’t feel the need to beat a dead horse, especially if that horse was already put down in such a great video; way better than I could ever try and type it up. I also usually work alone and am under somewhat of a time restraint, so I’m just trying to get the job done, not a picture shoot. if there were a local member that needed this done/help, shoot yeah I would take better pictures and try to do a step by step. I just found it easier to press pause and play on TTM video.
     
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  2. Jan 27, 2020 at 12:20 PM
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    Did you figure this out yet? If not, I found this in the manual if it helps.


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  3. Jan 27, 2020 at 12:33 PM
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    Yeah the bushing is far enough I think, getting the new seal seated to the right depth is a bit of a challenge.
     
  4. Jan 27, 2020 at 12:36 PM
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    This part of my CV axle is slightly bent, probably from when I was trying to get it out the first time. Could this cause the leaking? I assumed it was coming from inside where the shaft meets the seal.
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  5. Jan 27, 2020 at 12:38 PM
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    I doubt that would cause the leak, it might have been that the seal wasn’t in far enough
     
  6. Jan 27, 2020 at 12:41 PM
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    i just pulled the seal now, it seemed like it was flush with the lip of the diff, but Maybe it wasn’t 100% square or all the way seated. Going for it again now.
     
  7. Jan 27, 2020 at 3:34 PM
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    Did you put a tiny coat of lube on it before installation? Don't wanna go in dry!
     
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  8. Jan 27, 2020 at 3:39 PM
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    Good tip........
    Haha
    I think I went dry, but I know I played with the passenger seal to much and messed it up, I will remember to do that next time!!!
     
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  9. Jan 27, 2020 at 6:36 PM
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    I did grease it both times. I have the seal in now and the axle, it’s not leaking the fluid that was left in there yet. I haven’t put the knuckle back on yet as I ran into some issues with my press while doing the wheel bearing!

    You just use a little all purpose grease or something special?
     
  10. Jan 27, 2020 at 7:40 PM
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    With seals I use whatever they're going in or assy lube. So axle seals get diff juice, cam seals get oil, etc.
     
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  11. Jan 27, 2020 at 9:25 PM
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    I had a similar issue, cv diff seal was pressed in too far, or not evenly pressed in. The axle dust seal that u have bent may also be an issue. When axle is installed all the way in the dust seal mates with the axle seal in the groove to prevent any leaks(seals). If the diff seal pressed too far in a gap may be present and leaks, if dust seal is significantly bent it may cause a gap to occur and wont properly seal the two surfaces.
     
  12. Jan 28, 2020 at 6:13 PM
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    Well I got it back together, minus the brakes because I was following the A1 Auto video doing my wheel bearing and broke my rotor! Waiting for my new rotors and pads to come in so I can button it all back up and hope for no leaks and no more WAWAWA from the wheel bearing.
     
  13. Feb 18, 2020 at 2:49 PM
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    Tool is back from its last journey, and ready for the next one. PM me your info and I’ll get it in the mail.
     
  14. Mar 12, 2020 at 4:39 PM
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    For those that had a bad needle bearing, could you describe the symptoms? Lately something in my front end is creaking and popping sometimes when I brake or turn. It started at an off road park 2 weeks ago and a day or two after swapping the passenger CV. Sometimes the truck would pop out of 4hi off road that weekend.
    I also didn't top off the fluid after because my buddy that did the CV swap said I didn't lose much and it would be fine.
    I've lubed my ubjs and can't seem to find a way to lube my lbjs. I'm just trying to rule out some things. My driver CV has a torn boot and I have a replacement as well as ECGS bushing waiting to install. Any advice?
     
  15. Mar 12, 2020 at 5:57 PM
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    the #1 tell tale way to see if the needle bearing is bad is while driving throw it in 4hi and the vibration noise should stop almost immediately...then (still while driving) take it out of 4hi and the noise should come back within a few seconds.
    If yours keeps popping out of 4hi I think you have other issues.
     
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  16. Mar 12, 2020 at 6:03 PM
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    I'm still deciding if I wanna tackle it myself or see if a local shop cares to do it for me for a decent price. I typically go to check out prices, get floored at their astronomical prices for simple jobs, and then do them myself and save a bazillion dollars.
    I'd have to buy a few things to do this one and I really don't care to have a leaky seal after it's all said and done so I keep shying away from the job. Wish someone was local to me that I could feed beer to through a sippystraw while they do the job for me. :D
     
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  17. May 10, 2020 at 6:43 PM
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    What's the current status of this tool? Is this one just for removal? Looks like they sell both.

    Thanks
     
  18. May 10, 2020 at 6:49 PM
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    I have the removal, the insertion tool, and a seal drive as well
     
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    You can grease anything with a boot with one of these. Sometimes you get a tie rod end or a ball joint that doesn't have a zerk fitting. This just pokes into the boot and makes a very small self closing slit, not a hole. You can then fill the boot with grease. It's basically a hypodermic needle for a grease gun.

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  20. May 14, 2020 at 7:38 AM
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    I've got the ECGS bushing ordered. Man, they get you on shipping! I'll hit you up when I'm ready to make the repair @FrenchToasty Once again, really nice of you to offer this.
     
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  21. May 14, 2020 at 7:57 AM
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    Any time. Your at the top of the list and no one below, your good to go
     
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    I’ve been sitting on this bushing for months and really don’t wanna tackle it. Probably will need to replace my half axle at the same time but don’t wanna spend the money.
     
  23. May 14, 2020 at 10:56 AM
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    So if one were to replace both cv axles, this is a recommended preventative maintenance?
     
  24. May 14, 2020 at 11:46 AM
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    Would you be doing the install or a shop? It’s only an extra hour or so on top of changing out axels. So not much more in labor costs if done at a shop. If your doing it yourself and don’t mind doing the work, it’s still probably better to do it while your already in that deep

    go under and feel how much slop is in the driver side. There will be some regardless, but how sloppy is she?
     
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  25. May 18, 2020 at 9:33 PM
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    Yeah, it'd be me doing it. I haven't checked, but I bet it's nice and sloppy.
     
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    Did you ever figure out why your seal started leaking? I drove in the seal as far as I could. Hopefully I didn't go too far. I didn't replace the seal on the passenger side but now it looks like it might be leaking so I may have to re-do it.

    Honestly, replacing the needle bearing was a lot easier than I was expecting. I didn't even use a magnet to seat the tool like they recommend in the videos. It was a little challenging to drive in the new ECGS bushing at first. I eventually realized I wasn't smacking it hard enough. Once I got it going it was fairly easy.

    The part I struggled with the most was getting both axles back into the diff. I finally figured out my technique was wrong and got it figured out.
     
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  27. Jun 5, 2020 at 4:20 PM
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    Tool is back home, thanks @FirstGenVol for the return goodies! Everything was in one piece! Is that a local brewery? I like the fish on the logo, pretty pretty pretty cool!
     
  28. Jun 5, 2020 at 6:10 PM
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    It's a long story but Bells is actually out of Michigan. They have great beer.
     
  29. Jul 20, 2020 at 10:19 PM
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    Argh. I just need to do this so I can stop looking at the ECGS bushing sitting on my shelf. I think I need to order an axle seal though right?
     
  30. Jul 21, 2020 at 5:22 AM
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    Yeah it’s reccomended to replace the seal, there isn’t a nice way to take it out or save it when you remove the needle bearing
     

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