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Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by T-Rex266, Aug 15, 2015.

  1. Dec 17, 2020 at 8:34 PM
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    Your wheel weights are generally mounted to the inside of the wheel (see picture) and if you are running wheels smaller than stock size you could have clearance issues with the brake calipers. It would rub the calipers before it ever got to the rotors.

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    Gotcha, I guess that makes more sense maybe he just meant to say caliper. I’ll have to take a better look but if they removed the weights, should I go to discount tire and have everything rebalanced? I drove it on the freeway and low speeds and I did not feel any strong vibrations or shaking. Is it ok to drive with no wheel weights? If tire rotation was included with this oil change / transmission service, and they rotated mg tires, wouldn’t they have balanced the tires again? Or would the previous weights still keep the wheels balance when rotated. Ty
     
  3. Dec 17, 2020 at 9:13 PM
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    The wheel being balanced won't be affected by the tire rotations. The wheels are removed from the vehicle when they are balanced, so position on the vehicle won't matter. Adding weights to the wheels is done to offset the conditions pictured below.


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    If they removed weights then your wheel might be out of balance now. Getting it balanced again would be good if they did this, BUT if your weights are rubbing calipers you might need to get the weights repositioned. If that doesn't work or isn't possible you might have to get wheels that are larger or with a different offset to prevent the weights from rubbing on the calipers.
     
  4. Dec 17, 2020 at 9:23 PM
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    Oh wow ok. Thank you for showing me. So basically they balance each tire each to it’s own and not to each other is how I’m understanding it. Nevertheless it has nothing to do with rotation, they come off and are balanced while spinning for even spin no wobble
     
  5. Dec 17, 2020 at 9:26 PM
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    Correct.
     
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    Also, so if they were very unbalanced, I would feel it when driving correct.
    And depending on if the wheel had static imbalance or dynamic imbalance, the imbalance would be noticeable through shaking or vibrations, if I don’t notice anything wrong with the drive, could I disregard or would you still recommend me going to a tire shop if I see tomorrow that the weights were indeed taken off... (I mean I guess if there were weights on there to begin with that would imply that some sort of imbalance was present... doh )
     
  7. Dec 17, 2020 at 9:33 PM
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    I'd follow up with your dealership and ask if they actually removed any weights. If they did, I'd ask if they rebalanced the wheels. If they did not I'd go to the service manager and POLITELY ask why they are unbalancing wheels without consulting me first. Then I'd ask, again, politely that they rebalance my wheels on their dime. Not sure you'll get any traction, but I'd try.


    You may not be able to feel a minor balancing issue, but it may still be enough to cause your tires wear unevenly.

    Full disclosure, I am not a mechanic or tire tech. I just saw a question here that I figured I could answer. @Ruggybuggy will correct me if I am mistaken.
     
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    I very much appreciate your time and help especially at this time of night. I will start with your first recommendation. Thank you
     
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    I'm working nights right now, so the forum helps me stay alert. I hope you can get it all squared away without having to get new wheels. That would be a bummer.
     
  10. Dec 18, 2020 at 6:10 AM
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    Yea no kidding. Thank you!
     
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    Hey so I think I figured it out. Tech must have mean the calipers not rotors, just like you said. They did not remove the wheel weights because I do see them on the wheels, however the rear ones the way the are positioned would most definitely touch the calipers if rotated forward, so therefore they mean they did not do the tire rotation. I never noticed this before because I bought the truck off a buddy, but the trd bkk is really big and comes very close to the wheel itself weights or no weights. I don’t notice any metal scraping noises but unless you look up close it almost looks like it’s touching the wheel. :/ they hadn’t mentioned this being a safety concern at the dealership, is it ok as long as they don’t touch?

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    You could have the weights repositioned to clear the calipers. I've seen this before and if the wheel rubs the caliper you will hear it on a hard turn. The wheel will actually flexes a little causing a noise when it contacts the caliper. If you're not seeing a line around the inside of the wheel you're probably OK. You could crawl under the truck and have a look from the backside to see how much room you have.
     
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    This makes great sense. Actually I noticed that if I go on a turn ramp at higher speed I did hear a noise. If I go just normal it doesn’t make any noise nor does it when I’m just driving straight. Inside the rim I see a very very slight line around the entire inside of the rim so I think how you explained it may have caused this on a turn. When backing out I only feel the rubber rubbing but for sure I remember the noise turning on a ramp a little too hard. The touch must be ever so slight because it really just looks like the brake dust got scratched off. Guess I need to just take it easy on the turns. Thank you for the info
     
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    Personally, if the tolerances were that tight I would be wheel shopping. That's just me, I'm overly cautious and low risk.
     
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    He was giving you a link to the SCS Wheels. SCS wheels are light weight and look good, but are usually a bit of an ordeal to order. They sell fast when they get them in, so a shop having some on hand is a major deal to anyone that wants them.
     
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    I would definitely look at changing out the rims. In my area we have to do safety inspections and that would not pass.
     
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    Scs wheels are larger in size? Gotcha... hmm I understand and safety is important for sure. I’ve been into a les swab for tire fix in that exact area and the dealership saw my car twice and this time in detail. I wonder why they haven’t said anything. I’ve been driving it this way for the past few thousand miles
     
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    The SCS wheels for 2007+ Tundras are all 18 inch wheels, so they should provide plenty of clearance.

    Generally speaking, neither the dealership or a tire shop is going to do more than is specifically requested, and even then it's a crap shoot. Nobody is going to look out for you except you. Just the state of the world and people.
     
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    Oddly, these rims are 20s. And somewhere on here someone said 20 is min clearance for the bkk. I guess my options would be to go back to stock brakes and rotors or maybe find some 20 in sequoia rims? Not trying to spend a lot of money. Do you think it’s unsafe because the calipers might pop off?
     
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    Wait, what? :eek: You're having clearance issues on 20 inch wheels????!!!!!
     
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    So weird
     
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    Just second guesses myself and put some tape to it

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    But really haven’t felt a thing except the time I was going around an on ramp too hard. Normal turns, normal roads, speed bumps nothing those scs rims are really nice I just saw/looked them up
     
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    The SCS are awesome. I have them on my truck, but if you have clearance problems on 20's then there is no way you could do 18's. You must have aftermarket/larger disks and calipers. I thought you had stock and were having clearance trouble with 17" wheels.
     
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    Yea the rotors are huge I think it comes with the bbk (bought the truck used) how much do you think it would be to have dealer put stock ones or (sorry dumb questions) can I just change my rotor (disk) and keep the bigger brake?
     
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    And this is where me not being a mechanic comes in. lol. I defer to @Ruggybuggy on this one.
     
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    Lots. I'm not familiar with the BBC brakes but I would expect your in for rotors front and back, caliper brackets front, calipers front and back, brake pads front and back and possibly brake hoses. A real wild guess, 2K to 3K.

    I would try to find the parts used from a wrecker.
     
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