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Another VLED question - Hyperflash

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  1. Mar 5, 2020 at 4:58 PM
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    Ok everyone, I’ve read every post on here in regards to upgrading to LED turn signals but just can’t find anything on the 2020 model. Also I tried just about everything and I can’t get my issue resolved. I need someone that has done it to tell me what I’m doing wrong.

    Ok, let’s get this out of the way. I have a 2020 Tundra Pro and I want to upgrade front and rear turn signals to LED but trying not to splice/tap into factory wires to add resistors. Looking for PNP solution.

    Few weeks back I purchased VLED Extreme Triton V6 Amber Front Turn signal bulbs with PNP resistor VLR-6. Not cheap but great quality bulbs. I also purchased the VLED 36 LED Red 921 bulbs for the rear turn signals. When I installed everything I was getting hyperflash even with the VLR-6 resistors plugged in. I called VLED who has been great and they made me switch out to the VLR-10 PNP resistors and that still did not work and I was still getting hyperflash. Called them again and they thought I had too much resistance still and switched me out to the VLR-25 but I still got hyperflash. I called VLED again and asked them if I went with the VLR-3 if that would work and they absolutely thought that would be way too much resistance with the Triton Extreme V6 and not recommended to do.

    Ok so I returned everything and moved on to the JDM Astar front turn signal led bulbs and they work great without hyperflash. Then I proceeded to install the VLED 36 LED 931 LED bulbs in the back and again now have hyperflash. Now I tried to switch out the rear tail lights entirely to a whole new set of Red Smoke Spyder Tail Lights and still I’m getting hyperflash in those new lights with the JDM Astar LEDs installed up front.

    Question now, how can I get the VLED front and rear LEDs to work with the PNP resistor solution they offer. Is the resistors VLR-3 the wrong thing to do or will it work for each side circuit if installed in the front.

    I’m at a loss here. I need to know what you all who have a 2020 have done to make this work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
     
  2. Mar 5, 2020 at 5:40 PM
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    I’ve been using Vlr-3 on my truck for a few years now. No issues. I have tritons up front and their leds our back. No hyper blink.
     
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    I have a hunch the resistance needed from pre-18 and 18+ models is different. There was a thread about hyperflash in front turn signals. Pre-18 needed resistors, 18+ did not. combining with LED rear signals is another story though.

    i have vleds up front and Spyder tails which have built-in LED turn signals and i needed a VLR-6 up front for no hyperflash.
     
  4. Mar 5, 2020 at 6:20 PM
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    Thanks BlueBottle. I assume the PNP Kit up front and no resistors added to rear correct?
     
  5. Mar 5, 2020 at 6:21 PM
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    Thanks for your reply. The VLR-6 didn’t work for me and it’s frustrating...
     
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    Sounds extremely frustrating. I mean, u cant be the first person to go through this right!? I hope u get this resolved.
     
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    I have a question, are u sure ur VLR resistors are making contact with the inside of the wires? Mines werent working at first (it wasnt penetrating the wire) so i had to take a razor blade and shave off some of the insulation, exposing raw wire. Then i squeezed the clamp shut.
     
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    hopefully you can get this worked out. I put the VLED's Tritons turning lights in the front with their plug and play resistors (before hyper flash, none after resistors). For 2018 with LED DL and Headlights. A month later put VLED's non Tritons in the back without resistors hyper flash, with resistors hyper flash went away. Been about 2 years without an issue. It is my impression thru here that all of the lights are dedicated separate circuits therefore may require resistors on all 4 corners to work. Have seen that some may not require resistors at all???? Good Luck.
     
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    Really like the effects of bright lights on Brake and Turn Signals.
     
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    we are both using triton bulbs. Resistance should be the same.
    yes I have 1 vlr 3 on each front. Pnp. Try it. I bet it will fix your issue.
     
  11. Mar 6, 2020 at 3:30 AM
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    Hey Vegas, I was using the plug and play versions in the front and not the duo-tap or t-tap versions you described.
     
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    Thanks a Turtle, I’m thinking the same thing, may have to have dedicated resistors on each corner. VLED said Toyota does this for Lexus but he didn’t think it was necessary for Tundra, but that must be it. Did you use VLEDS Duo-tap resistor splice? I’m worried about splicing into factory wires. Thanks
     
  13. Mar 6, 2020 at 3:36 AM
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    Thanks BlueBottle, I was thinking of trying the VLR-3 as last my last shot, the team at VLEDS has me a bit nervous though to try, they stated that would be too much resistance going with 3 ohm resistors, but in reading your posts and several others and even on VLEDS website, it says to use VLR-3 if changing both front and rear to LED. They just feel the Triton Extremes are considered a standard bulb wattage and that’s why they think it’s too much resistance going to 3 ohm. It looks like the right answer because it’s working for you. Do you have the factory LED headlights? Thx
     
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    Yes I do but that has nothing to do w the signal as those remain holegen in the factory headlights.
     
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    Ok thank you, that makes sense.
     
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    used the cheapo blue wire taps, but I did silicone the taps to be waterproof. If issues arise on light wiring I will know where to start.
     
  17. Mar 6, 2020 at 7:30 PM
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    Ok thank you pal!
     
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    BlueBottle, for your front turn signal bulbs, are they just the Triton V6 Amber https://www.vleds.com/shop-application/turn-signals-front/7440/v6-triton-kit-a-7443.html or the triton V6 Extreme Amber https://www.vleds.com/shop-application/turn-signals-front/7440/v6-triton-extreme-kit-a-7443.html. Im about to pull the trigger on the VLR-3 resistors and just the plain Triton V6 and not the extremes and want to make sure i match what you have as you have proven it to work. Let me know. Thx again for you help.
     
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    just the regular triton v6. Didn’t know they made the extremes that don’t need resistors. I wonder if it’s not enough resistance. I been running my setup for a few years now w no issues.
     
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    Ok thanks pal. I ran the extremes with the 921 in rear with the 6 ohm and it still dint work so assume the 3 ohm is the only way to go. Thanks for your reply.
     
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    OK so I tested the Triton V6 Turns with VLR-3 PNP resistors with the vled 921 Red LEDs in the rear and still got hyperflash. When I started truck it stopped blinking all together. Either I have too much resistance or the tundra just needs resistors on each corner to work. Sucks as I do t want to splice wires but vled does not make a PNP resistor option yet for the 921 bulbs. SUCKS!!!!

    Has anyone setup their 2020 full vled LED as trying to see what worked?

    Thanks
     
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    Turtle - which resistors did you put in the front on each side with the tritons, VLR-6???

    as for the rear, what did you use on each corner? I assume VLR-6. Did you use VLEDS duo tap splices?

    Thanks
     
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    Sorry for the delay, had to go look at the resistors in the front. Triton V6 PNP with the VLR-6 resistors in the front. Rear used VLED 921's with 3 red led per side. Resistors for both turns in the back. Went to O'Reilly's and got the Sylvania 50 watt/6 ohm resistors. Used heat shrink connectors to tap the hot lead on the turns to resistors. Being afraid of the heat generated by resistors, I did anchor the resistors to the body behind the light with a small screw. If lights start to act up, that will be the first place to look for failures. Good Luck
     
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    Thank you so much Turtle, I appreciate your help on this. Looks like I do t have an option and have to go the splice method! Again, thank you!
     
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    No problem, rec'd coaching from @BlueBottle for mine. glad to see his input for yours. Great Resource.
     
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    that’s odd. Maybe the 2020 separated the circuits. Because on my 16 the entire side is one circuit.

    I got something for you to try. Put in the extremes up front. And put the stock bulb in the rear. If no hyperblink then you may need to jsut do the vlr3 in the rear with their taps. That’s what I would do. Good luck.
     
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    That’s what I’m thinking on circuitry. I did what you said first and no hyperflash. I’m thinking the rears are just that sensitive. Looks like I’m going to try the VLR-6 in the rears only and see if that works and if not try the VLR-3. I’ll post up what works. Thanks Bluebottle.
     
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    I googled around the other day and found a couple of bulbs with resistors built in; (LASFIT) seems to be the best of the ones I found. I'm not a fan (and will not) of cutting into my 2020 Pro wires either.
     
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    Thanks Scott, that’s my hesitance. Looks like once you put LEDs up front than you lose all options in the rear. Hopefully someone finds a solution. VLED told me they are working on a PNP resistor option for the 921 bulbs and should be here this summer.
     
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