All terrain tires ride like crap ...change my mind

The Michelins are very capable. Rather, a good driver is not hampered by their capability. Maybe that’s a better way to say it. Anyway, a great tire for loads of applications. Are they mud tires? No. Did they do better than expected on a muddy section of the hydro line? Sure seemed that way to him.

Also, this does not seem “relatively dry”. This is very soft mud. They even dug some big rocks out of the middle of the trail and flattened the hump because multiple trucks he was trying to review got hung up between the ruts.




Im not arguing that they’re mud tires. Just saying they’re great for lots of different applications. Far better than most on here give them credit for.

 

NITTO RIDGE GRAPPLER, NOT THAT NOISEY, NO PROBLEMS IN RAIN, VERY HAPPY WITH MINE

 

Been on KO2's for a while now. Multiple sets. Wanted to venture out to the LTX AT2 but I always chicken out.

Might try the coopers next. Many of you guys praising after switching from KO2's... Any longterm reviews/feedback on the coopers after 10-15k miles?.. Every tire drives great when new.

 

Have had KO’s on my 01 Tacoma, 01 Tundra, and 2010 Rock Warrior Tundra (came stock). Then put 60k on KO2’s on my 2017 Tahoe (work rig). Found them to be rough riding, loud, but wore extremely well and liked the looks.

Have almost 25k on the Cooper XLT’s and they are the smoothest and quietest AT tires I’ve ever had. They still look like new with rotation every 10k when getting oil changed.

 

I enjoy the stiffness of the KO2's, especially when it come to cornering and higher speed turns on highway connectors.. Yes I drive fast... The KO2's make the steering feel solid/stout as theres no sidewall buckle due to the 10 ply.

Would you honestly say the Coopers behave the same way? If so, I'm switching.

 

When I bought the Coopers, the shop installed them at 45psi and feel very solid. Almost too stiff for me. Ran them the first 10k like that. Dropped them down to 40, then briefly at 35, and now back to 40. Seems like the sweet spot for me, but I like the smoother / softer ride.

I honestly don’t remember what psi my 2010 was run at, but it was a stiffer ride than my current Platinum. Not sure how much was due to tires or the TRD shocks vs. the Platinum shocks.

Tough to compare the Tahoe on KO2’s to the Tundras. But the Coopers definitely don’t feel like they are lacking in side wall stiffness at all.

Guess should also make the distinction that my Platinum has 33” on 20’s, 2010 was 33” on 17’s, and my Tahoe was 33” on 18’s.

 

One person said that everyone seems to have different experience with their vechile. I am running GT AT3, not loud to me no complaints about performance. Maybe cause I am older and I only expect a Cadillac ride in a Cadillac. What ever, I like em

Researched them before purchase they get really good reviews

 

the Nitto RG gets noisy after 20k miles. After the outer soft rubber shell wears they get progressively noisy leading up to an obnoxious roar. Replaced mine early because they were too loud.

 

Same experience here. But all I’ve run have been E-rated. I’m on my 3rd set, 1st on a half ton. 2 previous on a Dodge CTD 2500. Excellent tire for my uses.

 

I think the alphebetic rating is refering to the number of plys; not load rating. Load ratings are numbers.

 

I have me coopers on for a while now, lots a miles.

the AT3 XLT is a home run for a an AT Tire, you won't be disappointed

 

My tundra is a 2010 and i had it lifted 5" last year. Had crappy 35" Mt tires and cheap 20" rims with +18 offest before. Now i have Nitto Ridge grappler AT tires that balanced with hardly any weight, and i now run fuel 20x12 wheels. The change in the ride was amazing. No steering shake no wondering drives straight. The only thing i can add is the new tires and wheels are heavy compared to the other 35"'s so i upgraded the front brakes to compensate. So the moral of the story is... Buy good At tires and wheels and have someone who knows how to align and balance. Also might want to check your upper and lower arms, ball joints and wheel bearings. I had all that done too.
I will agree with above statement. No trouble in rain only need to plan stops in snow but Ive had that issue with other vehicles and tires.

 

I will probably be in the market for tires soon and this thread has been great. My truck is 2WD and mainly sticks to the street but I am planning to level/lift it and put some new tires on when the time comes. Bought it with some Yokohama YK-HTXs mounted on there, actually a pretty good all season & street tire but has no real bite off the beaten path. The most off-road my truck sees is some gravel roads/trails & maybe a grassy field. Has anyone tried the Pirelli Scorpion All Terrain Plus tires? I've run Pirellis many a time but never an A/T.

 

Pirelli ATs lasted a whole 27k on a F150 i once owned. 2 caveats. 1 is it was a tire eating F150 and 2 my ex was main driver. I asked her more then once if she thought she was driving Nascar. Jackrabbit starts, hard braking, and foot was always on one pedal or the other.

 

Pirellis certainly are a softer compound tire and do lend themselves to wearing down quicker than most. Most recently I had them on a BMW X5 with a staggered 19" factory wheel & a set of P-Zero Rossos, I was able to squeeze a little over 30K miles on them, couldn't rotate due to them being staggered, also most BMWs tend to be a little aggressive in terms of factory camber, & it was also AWD. Even if it was square setup I don't think I would have seen much over 40K. That being said I absolutely loved those tires, so much so that when they wore out I put another set on without hesitation. They had a ton of grip wet or dry and gave me the confidence to chuck that SUV into some corners like it was a sports car. Now I know an A/T tire is a completely different ball game compared to a summer performance tire but some sense of control must still be there otherwise it is not worth it. The Michelin LTX A/T2 seems to be a great contender in terms of ride quality but I agree it doesn't look the part of an A/T tire. The Pirelli certainly looks the part but I am not sure of their performance. The Cooper seems to be the real talk of the town but I don't think I have ever ran a set of Coopers on any of my personal vehicles.

 

I recently installed some Yokohama geolander A/T go15 on the sequioa and they seem to be a pretty good tire. Not an overly aggressive a/t pattern yet still offers a smooth and mostly quiet on road experience. They balanced easy and come with a 60k warranty.

I used to run Cooper a/t 3 and they are a great tire but they get loud as they wear down . Can't go wrong with either though.

 

From more research I have narrowed it down to these three tires in E load 295/70r18. They all have reviews that they ride soft and smooth, although I think the Michelin would be the softest. The Michelin is the only non snow rated tire, but I had them on our last grand Cherokee and they were phenomenal in fresh snow and ice, no idea why they arnt rated for it.
Michelin defender ltx m/s
Bridgestone dueler revo 3
Yokohama geolander G015.

these are also the least common tire in this size on 1500-2500 trucks, at least it seems that way on forums. I think most people on these forums want aggressive tires, old guys who buy Michelin’s don’t post on forums all that often.

my current E rated coopers have gotten too loud, and are stiff as all hell. They are the atw which they stopped making and basically turned into the ats4, but the atw has more siping and a softer compound.

in my experience it’s really important to have tires that are good in snow/ice with the tundras shitty brake locking differential delay. Limited slip or locker will be in my future if I don’t upgrade to the newer tundra next year.