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Alignment in spec but truck pulls to the right still

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  1. May 9, 2018 at 1:01 PM
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    Hello all,
    i recently had some 285/70/17 bfg ko2 and 17x8.5 method vex installed on my tundra. i took it to the alignment shop and they were able to get it perfectly aligned but for some reason the truck still pulls to the right.

    The tech suggested something may be bent or that there is some steering wheel sensor recall for my truck. Can someone possibly shed some light as to why the truck still pulls to the right.
    is it due top the stock upper control arm. i also have bilstein 5100s at the top setting
     
  2. May 9, 2018 at 1:04 PM
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    post up your alignment #'s.
     
  3. May 9, 2018 at 1:10 PM
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  4. May 9, 2018 at 1:12 PM
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    HEre is the spec sheet allignment.jpg
     
  5. May 9, 2018 at 1:23 PM
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    I just had a similar issue... Turns out it was my tire. The offending tire pulls to whatever side it's on. Worth rotating the fronts to the rear to check if no one else can provide alignment advice.
     
  6. May 9, 2018 at 3:12 PM
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    #'s look good. Try swapping left tire to right and right tire to left.
     
  7. May 9, 2018 at 3:30 PM
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    thats what i was going to try this weekend when i have some time. if it changes and pulls left what should i do at that point?
     
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    Then its the tires.
    These were the tires you got a good deal on? Assuming no refund etc?
     
  9. May 9, 2018 at 3:40 PM
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    You can also check to see if one of the front wheel is dragging more than the other. Have both wheel up off the ground. Spin both wheel with your hands. Check and see if one side is spinning more freely than the other. If one side is dragging more, it could be your brake caliper sticking or something else.
     
  10. May 9, 2018 at 3:44 PM
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    yes these are the tires i got a good deal on and nope no refund no warranty
     
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  11. May 9, 2018 at 3:45 PM
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    okay i will check to see if one is dragging more than the other as well.
     
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    Rotate them one by one to the back to isolate the trouble maker... Then leave it back there :)
     
  13. May 9, 2018 at 4:14 PM
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    If the tires have no effect, take it back and request to have the passenger side caster angle increased so it's about .5* more than the driver side caster angle. This will help it drive straight and help fit road crown pull. All other angles look good. The .5* I suggested is a good starting point, your truck may call for a little less or a little more.
     
  14. May 9, 2018 at 4:22 PM
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    Had a similar issue for a couple of years...basically from the day it left the dealership. I spent much-o money on alignments and dealership visits. every time they would say its in spec. The dealer installed a 3/1 lift before I bought it, so just figured it may have been the lift...:annoyed: I even bought aftermarket upper control arms as recommended from a reputable alignment shop due to lack of adjustment in cam bolts. it continued same old story until just recently when I purchased new wheels and tires where they offered a free alignment check. of course they said the alignment was off, so I said fix it. Another $89 later and they fixed it. come to find out the dealership that installed the lift had re-installed the alignment cam bolts backwards, which didn't allow for proper adjustment. all is well now... straight and true... :bowdown: damn dealership... Thought about getting them to reimburse me for all those alignment expenses.:argue:
     
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    I'm currently trying to figure out the same issue myself. Tire rotation did not fix. Time to dig deeper.

    T2S did, however, knock something to lessen the pull to the right. Maybe the solution is beat it up on a couple more Sedona trails
     
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  17. May 10, 2018 at 8:00 AM
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    @Watt maker @joonbug so i should take it back to the alignment shop and have them add .5* to the passenger side caster angle?
    Should i try rotating the tires at all first or just go straight to the alignment shop?

    what makes the added .5* caster angle fix the pull to the right?
     
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  18. May 10, 2018 at 8:13 AM
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    It’s adjusting for road crown. Your driver’s side caster is .3 higher, reverse it so passenger side is .3-.5 higher. That should help the pull assuming you don’t have some other problem.
     
  19. May 10, 2018 at 8:17 AM
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    What about these numbers? Same issue, drifts to right, 35x12.50x20 tires, wheels 20x9 +20 6" lift stock UCA'S
     
  20. May 10, 2018 at 8:31 AM
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    Okay i'm gonna head back to the alignment shop this weekend and see if they can make this adjustment for me without charging me for a whole new alignment.

    so the passenger side needs to be .3- on the caster angler correct
    i just want to make sure that i tell them the correct thing
     
  21. May 10, 2018 at 9:01 AM
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    You could try swapping front tires left to right to rule out or fix a tire issue since it's quick and easy to do. Also, verify your tire pressures are where they need to be and equal side to side. The next step would be visiting the alignment shop and have them bump up the caster on the passenger side by at least .5*, this will be a starting point. Your truck may require more, maybe less. You will have to drive it on a known flat, smooth road after each time on the rack. The hardest part will be finding an alignment tech and shop that will be willing to put in the time needed to get it right.

    The caster split fixes the pull or drift because positive caster gives a vehicle directional stability due to the tire being pulled along by the load which is projected in front of the center of the tire contact area. This causes a vehicle with positive caster (point of load ahead of the point of contact) to be harder to steer away from the straight ahead position. Also, the tire/wheel assembly with more positive caster has a tendency to toe inward when the vehicle is being driven. If one side has more positive caster than the other, this causes it to toe inward with more force than the other side. This will cause a lead or pull to the side with least amount of positive caster which will correct for road crown or other anomalies.
     
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    Same thing as above. The angles look good and they are in spec but sometimes that isn't good enough. I would check tire pressures, swap tires side to side to rule out a tire issue, if that doesn't fix it, re-align it but add about .5* caster to the passenger side and go from there.
     
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    I would explain what your truck is doing then request that they try adding .5* caster to the passenger side while keeping all the other angles the same. If the caster is already maxed out on the passenger side, they can decrease the caster on the driver side. If that's the case, I would recommend looking into some aftermarket UCA's that can add some caster back.
     
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    mine still slightly pull to the right even after new set of tires and alignment, same for my SUV and my car. I think it's the road at this point :)
     
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    Alright i will swap tires and sides and check tire pressure from side to side and see if i can pinpoint the issue and if not then i will head to the alignment shop and talk to them about my issues.
    thanks for all of the information and knowledge. i am actually saving for some new upper control arms right now actually to provide more adjustibility
     
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    I'm on market for aftermarket UCAs would this help as well? Prefably SPC adjustable UCAs
     
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    How do these numbers look? Went this morning they swapped front two tires, air pressure was good1526589751428-113070647.jpg
    No more drift to right or tugging to left on steering wheel
     
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    They look pretty good to me. Glad you got it straightened out!
     
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    Thanks for info! Last pic I posted was a young guy, today was a seasoned vet from another shop
     
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