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Air Compressors...Post your Questions

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  1. Feb 12, 2020 at 6:49 PM
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    Post up your air compressor questions. Ive got so much help from this place on my truck, just wanted to help where I can...

    Just posts some pics of your compressor (model# and ser#) and I'll help anyway I can. Mostly only work on screws at this point, but still do the occasional reciprocating.

    Current one at the shop is a 50hp off an asphalt plant. Its been ran hard and put away wet. Its getting a full service and new airend this week and then back to paving for the summer.
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  2. Feb 12, 2020 at 7:03 PM
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    Some recent installs at a CLT plant.
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  3. Feb 12, 2020 at 7:35 PM
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    I need to find a good tank drain for my garage compressor, would be nice to be able to pull a cable or cord to drain.
     
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    What’s the best way to store your hose in the garage? I’d like a cheap, simple solution. I only use mine for Mtb and car\truck tires. thanks!
     
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    Is it one of those petcock drains on the bottom? Probably 1/4 NPT...Pull it out and install a 1/4 street elbow and a long 10-12 inch nipple and a 1/4 ball valve (most hardware store will carry everything). Then you can install a float drain or electronic drain in the future if you want to.

    Access is key. Bring the ball valve out from under the tank and then you wont dread having to drain the tank when your using it.
     
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    Honestly Ive installed $500+ hose reels and for the average garage consumer, the harbor freight Central Pneumatic hose reel is the best bang for the buck. Cheap and the springs lasted longer then i thought they would.
     
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    Thanks, for real!
     
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    Oooooooooo pretty snow and mountains. I miss it!!
     
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  9. Feb 12, 2020 at 8:17 PM
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    I love it here. My buddy moved to FL 2 years ago and hated it. Just sold his house and moving back in 2 weeks. I could never do the humidity...I would fucking melt.
     
  10. Feb 12, 2020 at 8:53 PM
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    Aaron,
    I’ve got a 2 lung pump and 220v motor (about 40 years old) I have mounted on a newer 60g tank (the old tank was pretty much rusted out).
    The system is designated for a single purpose: a pneumatic power hammer.
    It feeds the hammer okay, but takes about all it can deliver.
    My question is; does it require some “duty cycle” down time, or can it run nonstop without damage?
     
  11. Feb 12, 2020 at 9:10 PM
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    Yes most reciprocating compressors do require some duty cycle. Heat is really hard on that pump head. With it being so old it probably "splash lubricated". Its also really hard on the valves in the head due to carbon build up.

    If you have to stop and let the tank build with pressure to run the hammer some more. You dont have enough CFM (flow) and you never will.

    Also with a head that old...double check all of your relief valves and make sure the tank has one too...Seriously good on you for replacing a old tank!!! Old pressure vessels scare the shit out of me. They are very dangerous and if you dont have the proper relief valves in place it can be very unsafe.
     
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    Yeah it sucks for sure. I was stationed in Great Falls from 1992-1996. It was a much simpler and safer life up there. People here are a$$holes by nature.
     
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    Good Lord, I hope not. Need to save money for fuel.
    Who makes the bestest screw compressor: Sullair, Ingersoll, or Kaiser?
     
  14. Feb 13, 2020 at 8:58 AM
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    How big of horsepower?
    How many hours will it run a day?
    How close is the nearest service center?
    Edit: what type of power do you have? 3phase/single phase?

    Thats a hard question. Need a little more info on how it would run...
     
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    Want to keep your compressor living longer? Clean it...This place get new filters every 45 days and I still cant keep this place clean enough.

    Gonna be switching them over to 2 stage filter, to help with this environment.
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    They should snorkel that intake to clean air location. That environment is terrible for a rotory screw.
     
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    Outside is just as bad. A 2 stage with a hood will help knock out alot.
     
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    My trick for easy water removal from the tank:

    Plumb in a dedicated hose into the 1/4" nipple and valve that was meantioned earlier. (Lose that stupid petcock thing completely).

    Use that hose to blow the dust out if the garage or inflate mower tires or similar. You actually get to put that compressed air to work and you get rid of the water.(you paid for the electricity to compress the air, might as well use it instead of wasting it).

    I like this thread. Can I add some pics and comments about the units I work with?
     
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    Hell yes! You a tech?
     
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    No, just a skilled operator. Been maintaining 8 of these for the last 25 years.IMG_20200215_211338.jpg
     
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    Damn...old Quincy 1000s. Look water cooled and super clean.

    Even have to old style inlet valves. Damn cool.
     
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    I actually got to see that one catch fire. The air discharge nipple out of the separator developed a pin hole leak. The air/oil vapors ignited from static electricity. The flame chain reacted and perfectly cut the pipe nipple. It was such a clean cut, it looked like it was cut with a Lazer.

    The compressor went full load. 1000cfm plus makes a huuuuge noise when piping is no longer connected.

    The room filled completely with oil/vapors after the fire extinguished itself.

    No one could see to turn off the unit.

    I performed a "no no".

    I racked out the breaker while the machine was running full amps. There was no other way to bring the machine down. I was sure I was gonna blow my arm off when the bucket exploded. It didn't and the machine wound down. Off to change my underwear.

    I'm pointing to the spot that burned thru.

    I've asked many techs if they have ever seen that and say they havenot.IMG_20200215_211414.jpg
     
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    That one is the oldest. It was running when I started the job in 1996. I'm pretty sure the Hobbs meter had rolled over 3 times at least that I can remember. Right now it's showing 5400.

    It's the same air end.

    It lives in a pretty decent area and we snorkel in clean air. It also gets full serviced every 8000 hours.
     
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    I bring in a team every year or so to pressure wash the units. I hate working on grimey equipment. I
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    care how good a person takes care of these, there will always be oil leaks or spills. A little spilled oil makes a big mess over time.
     
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    Yep. Water cooled is great if you can pull it off. Most of the units we have to do are in timber mills and have to be pressure washed every 1000 hours in summer and cleaned and coolers brushed in winter.

    We just started replacing old Quincys finally due to energy savings.

    What kind of plant are you at?
     
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    Petro chemical.

    I've only ever worked utilities. I supply steam, air and cooling water. Beyond that, I can't tell you more. How this place makes the product, I have little interest. The skills doing what I do are used everywhere, so I'm pretty happy.
     
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    Still on the original airends is pretty damn impressive!
     
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    6 of the other machines are adjustable screw length machines. They also run on 4160 volts, so they are pretty efficient.

    The one above is a 460volt machine. It's only adjustment is the inlet valve, so we try to run this one full out and let the other machines trim the header pressure. As you know, rotory screws use similar amounts of electricity regardless of load or unload.
     
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    Those are some old airends, but they last forever with good maintenance.

    I love the energy savings you can see on a variable drive machine...but the amount to repair/replace a drive is hard to stomach for most people.

    Lots of power companies are giving huge credits nowadays, to switch over to VFDs just because of the energy savings.
     

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