831Tun How'd I get here build?

I'm getting a custom credit card design with ghost flames. LOL

 

I was gonna say...lmao

 

Seriously... Icon arms are bullshit.

 

TC and MCM good to go.

 

I thought I'd posted the photos of the 2 different arms stacked on top of each other. I'll post the photo "evidence."

 

This picture sums it up, they have been that way for 10ish years.

 

Draw a straight line thru where the long bolt goes through the bushings and my eyeball tells me the ball/ delta joint is closer to the long bolt on the Icon than stock?

 

Curious Curious.. I may have the shop try to match your alignment #'s once I get my truck put back together. I can't get the damn thing to stop pulling right; almost like it wants to be a backwards NASCAR racer


Could be the angle of that pic, but the Icon arm does appear to be noticeably shorter

 

Just a little bit...

 

Any idea what your #s are?

 

Yeah, just enough to be effed!

 

L/R
0.0/0.2 Camber
5.0/4.9 Caster
0.15/0.14 Toe

I tried playing musical tires, still pulls

 

And it pulls right? Maybe @Vizsla will offer some advice? I think he's forgotten more than I know.
I have .3 less caster on the L I would say your toe is just a little too much. Might be nothing but I think max total is supposed to be .24 so .12 ea. side.
Another thought, but you probably already checked, is everything rotating freely on the right side, no binding brakes or wobbly wheel bearings?

 

I haven't thoroughly gone over that side yet, but a quick once over didn't reveal any obvious reasons. Going to try a different shop for this alignment to see if they have the same issues and/or can find anything that could cause it. Last shop said they had a hell of a time getting those numbers, but couldn't tell me why they had difficulty. My guess is ineptitude

 

The combo of camber split, and backwards caster split has to pull right. I repeat this a lot, not openly because everyone that read an alignment thread, race truck parts make noise, etc..

L/R
-.1/-.1 Camber, EVEN!
4.5/5.0 caster, bit of a guess
.07/.07 toe as low as can go

If the rear end is out far enough, some tweaks might be needed, but your OCD would match mine at that point. Caster is a guess for me with your Camburg arms, it seems low for them which to me is better, so I suggested a higher caster split. My caster is the same, I can let go of my wheel and nothing but straight.

 

Sorry didn’t read this first. They are trying to pull your caster down to spec, they usually only know green or red. Your arms want more caster, that’s mostly preference(I don’t get it), but will align better if you tell them to disregard caster other than the needed split.

 

Here are some comparison photos of the Icon vs MCM UCAs. The ball joint cup on the Icon is close to 3/8" shorter (in closer to the truck) than the MCM. And, the MCM moves the joint farther aft which increases caster.

 

big difference. damn

 

You have seen the light!!!

 

This explains a lot lol

Glad I went with mcm with with all the advice I got and research.

 

I'll give that a whirl. Thank you sir!

 

How are they on the wallet?

 

They weren't that bad. Discount Tire Direct, no tax free and fast shipping. They're 1,188 and they had a $75 rebate.

 

That's my wifey's suspension

 

I remember seeing the post, it's for her 4r I think. That's partly what caused me to change the color of my UCAs. I waited a long time for those so I didn't wanna wait any longer for a custom color.

 

Yea she waited a while also. Yours look really good the way you painted them

 

I wanna see some pics of that 4R. I be it's BA.

 

It stayed really nice rides awesome. She really likes it. We haven't put the tires on yet other bills. She has her wheels waiting in the garage some icon rebound wheels. I will post some once her wheels and tires are on.

 

wifey 4R deserves its own build thread

 

I will add one on the other builds thread once I get her tires and wheels on.