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700 miles old and Check Engine light on

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by rfk757, Jan 28, 2018.

  1. Jan 28, 2018 at 8:19 AM
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    I have a '18 5.7 w/700 miles which is all of three weeks old or so. I was a bit peeved to see the Check Engine light come on a few days back, and have it booked into the dealer tomorrow for diagnostics etc. The first response when I drove by to see if it was serious was, " This happens frequently, you must be careful with the filler cap"

    Now don't get me wrong - I am always happy to take advice, but I consider myself fairly well checked out on how to tighten a filler cap......I read the manual and it could be one of several other issues too. Engine is running fine.

    But anyway, is this light something I should expect to see often? If so, I am unimpressed - there is an inherently poor design here. I fly a Boeing wide body for a living, and know a bit about following manufacturer instructions, and also know that when caution/warning lights come on, there is generally a significant reason for same.

    I am on maybe my 5th or 6th Toyota, and I have never seen the check engine light on once. I usually see that light on when I am riding on a hotel van from the airport......poor or no maintenance etc.

    Thanks for any feedback....

    Rory
     
  2. Jan 28, 2018 at 8:22 AM
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    Local automotive store should allow you to borrow code reader for free. Get the error code and look it up online. I wouldn't worry too much.
     
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    Very odd. I had a brake issue from day one and not one of the local dealers, nor anyone on this forum, had ever seen the issues I had, but after a single visit into see the doctor the issue was easily diagnosed and remedied.
    I’m sure your issue will be resolved quickly, after all it’s one of the most reliable vehicle out there
     
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  4. Jan 28, 2018 at 8:25 AM
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    Sure. But my point is that I am riding around in a brand new machine, and I do not expect brand new Toyota's to have caution/warning lights illuminating after a couple of weeks; a one off event is one thing and acceptable, but if it is a "common" event, I have a problem with that - there is a reason I chose Toyota. Anyway the dealer will do the job tomorrow, but their shoulder shrug like response, as if it is no big deal, peed me off.
     
  5. Jan 28, 2018 at 8:26 AM
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    I'm sure the dealership sees the gas cap/engine light issue many times over the course of time. Yes, they may have jumped to a conclusion this time around but I'm sure they will get your truck squared away. I'm sure they will check to see what error codes the truck is throwing to see what is wrong. You can swing by just about any auto parts store and see if they have a reader to check the error code yourself for peace of mind/verification of what the dealership tells you tomorrow.
     
  6. Jan 28, 2018 at 8:28 AM
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    Let us know how it turns out. My first thought was the filler cap too. It may need to be replaced. But I agree you don’t see check engine lights “often” on Toyotas. Perhaps the service rep means that the filler cap is often the culprit when unexplained check engine lights come on?
     
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  7. Jan 28, 2018 at 8:30 AM
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    Possibly so - will update when it has been looked at - thanks
     
  8. Jan 28, 2018 at 9:34 AM
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    I wouldn't worry to much about it. You already have an appointment tomorrow and the dealer will figure it out by running diagnostics and it will be free since you have a warranty. The good thing is that the Tundra is a much less complex machine then your other daily driver (the 757).
     
  9. Jan 28, 2018 at 9:40 AM
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    I fly the 757 and 767 both - fantastically fun to operate - especially off road LOL
     
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  10. Jan 28, 2018 at 9:47 AM
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    I can totally understand now why a check engine light can cause you some "concern". Like everyone has said, the dealer should get you squared away plus you have the option to get the check light verified at your local automotive store for free. It would be good to have that 1st "second" opinion before you hit the dealer. Boeing...the only way to fly!!
     
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    Understandable. That was my point as well. Every manufacturer has issues on occasion. It’s what they do with the issue that determines their quality.
     
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  12. Jan 28, 2018 at 10:11 AM
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    "Check Engine" - looks out window - Yes Engine is there......

    My bird has slightly more specific messages delivered when all is not quite well - remember the flashing red light in Airplane? "A Little Hot"

    LOL
     
  13. Jan 28, 2018 at 10:18 AM
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    Yeah, The "user manual" for the Tundra is no doubt nothing like what you have to know flying that Boeing. :thumbsup::plane:
     
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  14. Jan 28, 2018 at 10:20 AM
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    :rofl:
     
  15. Jan 28, 2018 at 10:35 AM
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    Well the user manual for the Tundra gobsmacked me, weighing in at around 650 pages - still working on chapter one. The 767 manual on my iPad is about 2700 pages. I am 60 - spare hard drive capacity issues.........
     
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    Toyota also has a tendency to leave a few things out too.
     
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    1. Congrats!

    2. Frustrating, I’m sure. Got mine a month ago this weekend. No issues so far, other than it will never be this clean again ;-) Please let us (the forum and fellow ‘18 newbies) know how it goes tomorrow.

    3. Thanks for keeping us safe in the air
     
  18. Jan 28, 2018 at 7:00 PM
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    I wouldn’t worry.
    1- u don’t know what the CEL is for
    2– its warrantied. They’ll handle it
     
  19. Jan 28, 2018 at 7:16 PM
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    In all of my Toyotas, the only check engine light I've seen is in my Scion (Toyota) iQ. While washing it a few summers ago, I noticed the engine was also pretty dusty so sprayed some Simple green all over the black plastic stuff and then rinsed it off...something I've done with all my vehicles...then I started it up to drive it back into the garage. But this time it made my Check Engine and my Trac Control lights come up and they wouldn't turn off. The next day, I checked it again and they were still on so I hooked up my code reader and got 3 codes that all gave me a sick feeling in my stomach. But before I did anything else, I cleared the codes and reset the ECM and started her back up...no check engine or Trac Control lights...phew. Apparently, moving the car while the engine was still wet must've tripped off a few electrical things in there.

    Keep us posted!
     
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    You have no idea whether it will be “common” or not. My guess is that it won’t be. Get it checked out and move on. It’s probably something minor. GL
     
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    Not odd at all. You bought a brand new vehicle. If anything is supposed to go wrong it will be within the first few thousand miles hopefully.
    I'd hope an airplane would tell you the exact error on the dash and not require you to connect to a code reader first. In a car you have the option to pull over safely and get your code reader out to check it.

    But really it's not hard to get the code. Code readers are like $10 if you don't already have one you should.
     
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    Hold the Line! If you are not holding the line, abandon your ship. Destruction is inevitable without more to hold the line!
    I would be irritated as well, I doubt it is anything serious. It is not a 'common' thing for the check engine light to illuminate on these trucks.

    Boeing! I used to work for them, the engineers are great, the finance department is terrible, I worked in IT, so I had to deal with all of them. Honestly, the "Space Exploration" division had the worst people to deal with. They figured, Oh I have a PH.D in Aeronautical engineering, I am much more savvy when it comes to computers than you could possible even be. Meanwhile, I ask, "Did you reboot it". They always would have this contemptuous glare when I asked them this. Once they reboot their old jalopy, everything worked great, well then....
     
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    search "phone obd2 reader" on epray and you'll see a host of listings for products for little money and peace of mind. I bought one years ago and keep it around for the occasional cel on various vehicles I own - all out of warranty except the tundra - all toyota n lexus. for the money, it's a tool every enthusiast should own imo.

    i too will be interested to hear the outcome of your visit to the dealer today - mine has 3500 and on one occasion i had a notice on my dash indicating that the "ore-collision system was off" or something like that. I was concerned, read the manual, manually turned it off and then on again and after the next restart, all was back to normal. The manual didn't address this nor provide me with these instructions it just told me was the light was so I went into the settings via the steering wheel controls and found where to turn in off and on again.
     
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    Well over a week later when I got back home from a trip - I took it to the dealer and the light went out after I started it. I asked him to check it out anyway to see if an electronic history was showing and the is what it came back with....

    upload_2018-1-29_15-46-18.jpg
     
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    I think a loose gas cap can cause that. What did the service manager say? Could have been just a glitch.
     
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    He said fueling the truck while engine is running will do that. I don’t do that.
     
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    I don't do this all the time, but I've done it a good bit and I haven't had anything go wrong.
     
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    Yeah, that sounds like BS from the service manager. You definitely don't want to top off the tank. Not that you do. I'm usually somewhat of a skeptic at times. Happens with age.
     
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    I'm outside now with my 3 year old grandson. He always points at the jets flying over. Tried to explain I'm communicating with a pilot who flies those big bad ass birds.Maybe he will be a future aviator some day. Definitely a different perspective from up there from seat #1.
     
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    So it was the gas cap? Here i was thinking I was gonna be an ahole by telling you to just tighten the cap til it clicks a few times....
     

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