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3rd Gen Suspension Lift - MEGA THREAD

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by KroppDuster, Jun 10, 2022.

  1. Jan 8, 2023 at 3:44 PM
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    Different kind of spacer lift? I have a cornfed poly/plastic/whatever 1” spacer in the back, reused the factory cone just fine
     
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  2. Jan 8, 2023 at 3:44 PM
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    No need to convince me, but if they are like these dobinsons spacers like this. They go between the isolator “cone thing” and the frame coil seat. If you pulled the isolator out and just slapped these spacers in and didn’t have a problem, so be it. Long term I would not recommend that to anyone else. Others leave the cone and cut them down using Firestone bags.
    upload_2023-1-8_18-42-46.jpg
     
  3. Jan 8, 2023 at 3:53 PM
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    Anyway. I’d just buy the oem versions and do as you please to them. I’m seeing them for $72 each. Pn 483020C010
    https://parts.rohrichtoyota.com/p/T...il-Spring-Insulator/105903912/483020C010.html
     
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  4. Jan 8, 2023 at 4:06 PM
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    If you are near a Tom's 4x4 Superstore in Chattanooga TN, you might want to check them out for your install. I just paid for $1136 for install, alignment and taxes. Had the following installed:
    • Icon Stage 7
    • OME Rear springs
    • Front/rear Icon bump stops
    • Extended brake lines
    • Panhard bar
     
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  6. Jan 9, 2023 at 6:42 PM
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    Shoot…at those prices I may think about driving out there o_O
     
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  7. Jan 9, 2023 at 7:10 PM
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    Anyone change out their coilover springs to 700lbs for heavier weight

    I’m trying to plan ahead for my C4 front.

    On my 3rd gen Tacoma, 700lb was too stiff for a steel bumper and winch. 650lbs was a lot better.
     
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  8. Jan 10, 2023 at 4:53 AM
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    Icons coilovers for the tundra come with 700lb coils 158508
     
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  9. Jan 10, 2023 at 8:42 AM
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    Love the stance and the bronze wheels. I jusy got my Method 706 in Bronze. 17"

    What is the purpose of the AFE rear air adjustment arms? I'm trying to learn up on all of this. How do you like the ride with the Kings? I run those on my FJ, but 1 day after had them installed, I ruptured my left Achilles tendon. I haven't been able to shift a car for 4 months. That's a big part of why I just bought this new tundra. I'm trying to figure out if that's the best setup for the tundra or if I should look at the fox shocks that are now aluminum?

    The Stance of your truck is exactly what I'm going for. Also what kind of rock sliders are on there?
     
  10. Jan 10, 2023 at 9:03 AM
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    This is what I'm running with my Icons on my Tundra. I've got the CBI full bumper plus a 12k winch. Bumper is 155lbs + winch is 60 lbs. Total weight is ~220, including the light bar and a pair of Rigid fog lights. It's handling the weight just fine and the ride is smooth.
     
  11. Jan 10, 2023 at 9:52 AM
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    One more question- how is the road noise woth those tires?
     
  12. Jan 10, 2023 at 12:11 PM
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    The AFE arm is an arm that sets the height for your rear air suspension. This arm is just like the factory arm, but has more adjustment so the rear air will air up more to achieve level or slightly past level after the truck has been lifted.

    The ride is good, daily driving is slightly degraded or just stiffer if that makes sense. The truck doesn’t float as much which is nice but hits a little harder on slow bumps etc. it’s always a trade off when you put true off road suspension on a truck. You’re going to give up some daily driver comfort.

    Fox vs. King? Really they are vary similar and both are good. ADS is working on a kit that is definitely in the conversation when it hits also. As far as my experience in the past running both fox/king I can’t say one is better than the other. Best price would be my decision factor. Fox will typically have more adjustment but I’ve found that you really just find a good off road adjustment and daily adjustment and stay there.
     
  13. Jan 12, 2023 at 5:04 PM
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    285/60R20 Toyo Open Country AT3 (stock AVS/Rear Air), Extang Solidfold 2.0 Tonneau
    Quality Air-ride leveling with AVS lift out there??

    Some understand - some are confused (understandably). Air-ride leveling suspension does not necessarily mean you have AVS… so searching through this forum can be tough trying to figure out what really works and what doesn’t with AVS controls.

    I’m really just trying to get all our options layed-out. Here is what I ‘think’ is correct for those of us with AVS and want a lift (help from those in the know would be great):

    1. Westcott lift (specific to AVS/air) works
    2. Front levels - pucks with an open top for the AVS sensors (RC 1.75, etc) works
    3. Kits specific to AVS (Readylift sst lift kit for AVS air-ride)

    Can anyone else add to this? Higher-end suspension updates for the AVS? I’d prefer a better solution like Icon stage 1 or even RC M1s. I spoke with icon today and they are still in DEV on an AVS solution . Any other additions here? Thanks in advance everyone. Help.
     
  14. Jan 12, 2023 at 5:16 PM
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    Have any of you that has lifted 3" been told that you need the TRD extended axles? I have everything for my lift ordered but the shop that's installing says they got an email, I don't know from who that doing a 3" lift will require the TRD axles. No one has them in-stock, and the places I called today said they can't even order them. Something about Toyota putting a stop order on those parts and even the TRD lift kit. I don't know what to do now.
     
  15. Jan 17, 2023 at 10:43 PM
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    Anyone found a bilstein leveling kit for 23 tundra ? The full strut assembly I’m assuming ain’t out yet . My Google skills have failed
     
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  16. Jan 17, 2023 at 10:59 PM
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    after some time with the RC shocks how do you like them now ? I’m looking at them too . $500 for a level that ain’t rough riding sounds decent
     
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    I'm pretty happy with them. I had 5100's on my '19 Ram and honestly the RC struts don't feel any different. The truck feels pretty close to stock. WAY BETTER than any spacer lift I've ever had (decided I wasn't going that route again). For the price, and as long as you know these aren't a high end strut that going to let you smash it on 4wd trails, I think this is a good option.
     
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  18. Jan 18, 2023 at 6:48 AM
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    Anyone else wait more than 2 weeks for an Icon suspension to ship?

    Item was in stock when I ordered it.
     
  19. Jan 18, 2023 at 9:11 AM
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    Yes I am still waiting for mine, and it was ordered almost 2 weeks ago.
     
  20. Jan 18, 2023 at 3:42 PM
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    That makes me wonder if they were actually in stock. On 3 different occasions I ordered shocks listed as "in stock" online only to find out they were backordered. When I ordered this current Icon set I called the vendor and had them physically check the warehouse for the SKUs I wanted. Ordered over the phone and installed them exactly a week later and that was after they sat in the box for a few days waiting for my day off.
     
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    I ordered my Ikon kit through a local shop who did the install. Everything was in stock at the time, but then I got a call from the shop a few days before install saying the non-adjustable 2.5’s were like a month behind. But they had the adjustable ones. So, it was either wait or spend the extra $500. I ended up spending the extra $500 and now have blingy adjusters I need to take out a mess around with.
     
  22. Jan 19, 2023 at 4:33 PM
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    Does anyone know the stock spring rate on the rear end? Tried to call the local Toyota parts supplier here and all they could give me was the part number for the rear coils.
     
  23. Jan 20, 2023 at 10:23 AM
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    If you order through Total Chaos we will let you know what we have in stock and once ordered it will ship either same day or next day (adjusting for our regular business hours). just sayn;)
     
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    If you have a TRD Sport...yes. According to everything that I see, it's recommended that you have the TRD Red axles or the extended length TRD Silver axles for lifts of 3".

    The red axles come with the TRD Off Road & TRD Pro packages. The silver axles are what Toyota includes in the Toyota OEM lift kit.

    Here's the tech note from Icon's engineering department:

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  25. Jan 21, 2023 at 6:38 AM
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    Thanks for confirming this. I was able to get a set of the TRD Off-Road axles. Yeah I have the sport so the shop wouldn’t even touch my truck till I got these axles. I’m actually glad they knew about this, and did some research before just doing the install.
     
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    Anyone know the max height one can go on the front without replacing uca's? After seeing some of the spacer kits that lift the truck 3 inches up front, I wonder if it's possible to put an extended shock to get the same effect and just extend or replace the bump stop if needed. Also wondering if the trucks with the spacers have alignment issues, since most of the 3 inch suspension kits recommend replacing uca's with those in their kits... Or are the uca's in the kits provided for better wheel clearance in addition to more ideal alignment? Im not an expert about suspension so forgive the stupid questions, I haven't had my morning coffee yet.
     
  27. Jan 22, 2023 at 8:08 AM
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    anything over 2.5in should get new UCA’s in my mind, spacer or coilovers doesn’t matter
     
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  28. Jan 23, 2023 at 12:34 PM
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    Anyone have any leads where to order non-adjustable Kings that doesn't have a 6-8 month lead time? These things are impossible to find.
     
  29. Jan 23, 2023 at 12:40 PM
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    Here's the tech note from Icon's engineers:

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    And Westcott is doing 3" on the stock UCA :rofl:
     
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