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3rd Gen Suspension Lift - MEGA THREAD

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by KroppDuster, Jun 10, 2022.

  1. Dec 31, 2022 at 9:24 AM
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    Thanks a lot AZxp. What helpful and applicable information.
     
  2. Dec 31, 2022 at 9:42 AM
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    There isn't reason that it won't work on a Hybrid. There are plenty of installs that I've personally seen on the Hybrid/TRD Pro of Icon Kits.
     
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  3. Dec 31, 2022 at 9:48 AM
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    PM if you go the Elka route. I will introduce you to the number one elka guy in the US who will best any deal and take the time to listen to what kind of ride you want out of your shocks.
     
  4. Dec 31, 2022 at 9:49 AM
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    @Steveeee as @AZxp pointed out is true...they built my set up to how I wanted. My ride is a little firmer than stock, but still extremely comfortable. The stock suspension would billow forward when stopping and it would turn corners like a boat. No longer the case. It drives like a champ allowing for great long distance rides as well as flying down trail/dirt roads.
     
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  5. Dec 31, 2022 at 11:31 AM
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    Thats awesome. Thank you both very much. :)
     
  6. Dec 31, 2022 at 11:38 AM
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    Yeah, I want to know why they state that. Only thing I can think is needing to preload a little more for the weight.
     
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  7. Dec 31, 2022 at 1:25 PM
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    Stupid me, I decided to cross over the speed bump looking thing at target parking lot instead of reversing. Didn’t think truck was that low. Heard a loud thump, was cringing to see what happened. Got out, seems like the go rhino bottom bracket is slightly bent cause it tapped the speed bump. Still isn’t loose, but I’ll try to loosen screws tomorrow and screw in again.
    Long story, guess I’m definitely gonna look to raise the trunk slightly so it doesn’t happen again.

    Am I safe with keeping UCA stock if I’m only considering 2” rc m1 struts and 1” spacer rear? Thanks
     
  8. Dec 31, 2022 at 3:18 PM
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    Yikes what kind of industrial speed bumps you have in socal that you scrape out
     
  9. Dec 31, 2022 at 3:53 PM
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    Any insider info on when Dobinsons will release front suspension for us ?
     
  10. Dec 31, 2022 at 4:16 PM
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    You’ll be fine
     
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  11. Dec 31, 2022 at 5:21 PM
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    Well, just finished up a king suspension on my 23’ hybrid with factory rear air. I did the install myself and it wasn’t too bad. Most of the full suspension lift kits are pretty bolt on and not too difficult.

    I don’t post much but certainly use this forum for info and really appreciate those that share…so I thought I would give a little back and let you all know how it went, what I put on, etc.

    * King 2.5 front and rear clicker suspension with reservoirs.

    * Total Chaos upper control arm’s.

    * AFE rear air adjustment arms.

    * Race Line (Krank) 17-8.5-+18 offset. (Wheels barely fit over calipers)

    * Spare wheel pre fit to make sure it works is:
    Pro Comp Steel Wheels Series 51 Wheel with Gloss Black Finish (17x8"/6x5.5")

    * Goodyear Territory MT 315-70-17

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    A couple things that might be worth hearing:
    The 315-70-17 spare does fit under the truck. It’s tight, but gets there!

    The driver side through bolt for the Upper Control Arm is a little bit of a pain to get out and put in because the ECU is in the way. I WAS able to do it without unplugging the ECU. You can unbolt the mounting bracket and there is enough play to work. Be patient and get ready for some forearm fatigue, but it will work.

    The brake lines did NOT need to be lengthened. Maybe the hybrid has more play, not sure, but there is enough slack when you’re done. When I say enough slack it’s really not going to be an issue.

    The Kings came with optimal ride set on the collar. It was 7 threads or turns showing when they shipped. This gave the truck 1 1/4” of lift. Know this: you CANNOT adjust the collar while on the truck like some lifts I’ve done! There is too much pre tension and all I did was bend the collar wrench. It did not budge! You have to use a spring compressor and take the tension out, then turn your collar down PRIOR to install with the Kings!

    I have 11 total turns (threads showing)on the driver side, and 12 on the passenger. This is because the gas tank is on the passenger side so a little more pre tension. This gave me 2 3/4” of lift. Tires have not rubbed yet, but did not pin anything and have not gone full lock over bump or off road. This is when you will really know.

    That is a cliff note version of what I got. I hope this helps, I know looking through this forum helped me, so thank you that posted prior.
     
  12. Dec 31, 2022 at 5:30 PM
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    Wow looks awesome! I was thinking of going with the total chaos kit. Did you stick with your standard axles? With the trd kit, they give you longer ones. But the kings in the total chaos kit seem so much better than the bilsteins.
     
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  13. Dec 31, 2022 at 5:35 PM
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    Did not swap axle’s. I like Bilstein for some applications but not 1/2 ton. Bilstein is a degressive shock. King/fox are progressive shocks.
     
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  14. Jan 1, 2023 at 9:01 AM
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    Just wanted to report back that after a few turns on the coil overs and some caster adjustment there is 0 rub. Caster is still within spec as well.

    I'm now looking at finalizing my setup for the rear end. The OME 2864's work great with my 1500# camper but I would like to be able to take it off and store it in winter without having a terrible ride quality in the rear. Thinking about going to 2866's + Air lift air bags but am worries the progressive springs + air bags might give it a too progressive ride.

    Does anyone have any experience running progressive coil springs + air bags?
     
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  15. Jan 1, 2023 at 9:26 AM
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    Check another thread started by western spring, they are coming out with a spring with 20% more capacity and 1” ride height, may work out for you .
     
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  16. Jan 1, 2023 at 11:26 AM
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    Let me know what you end up going with, I'm also wanting to improve my on road ride without a lift. Got non trd standard shocks :(
     
  17. Jan 1, 2023 at 12:34 PM
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    I’m currently running Icon stage 7 with a 1” spacer with stock springs in the rear. My rear end is pretty soft and I have a 9k 34’ TT I tow a few times a year that I haven’t pulled yet since upgrading my suspension. I just ordered Airlift loadlifter 5000 Ultimate bags. I’m going to hold off on upgrading my rear springs till I see the ride difference with the bags.
     
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  18. Jan 3, 2023 at 1:56 PM
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    Report back on how the bags work. I didn't know if I could still do them after adding a spacer to the rear. I have a 2" front (RC strut) with a 1" spacer in the rear. I'll be towing the trailer next month, and may want to add bags to my setup. My TT has about 1k pounds of tongue weight.
     
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  19. Jan 6, 2023 at 12:15 AM
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    Need some insight and confirmation on the Pro Westcott Lift.

    From what I read on the Westcott Pro Lift per the website, the Pro gains an additional 2.5” lift on top of the 1.1” Factory Pro Lift. Coming in at an total 3.6” of lift.

    From what others have confirmed is the Trd Offroad and Pro front axles are the same red ones.

    In theory….Trd Offroad owners could do a full 3.5” of lift without the need of any diff drop like the Rough Country 3.5” lift.

    Any thoughts on this?
     
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  20. Jan 6, 2023 at 12:46 AM
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    Hey guys,

    I just finished up my truck (for now) and figure I’d add what I could to this threat. I’ve got a 23 Limited Hybrid with the TRD OR package. I went with Total Chaos’ UCAs, Links, and Kings. The truck is also sitting on Method 703’s and BFGs.

    TC’s customer service was beyond exceptional, they were able to get me on their waitlist for Kings and hit me up as soon as they had them. Pat actually held a full set of parts for me for a week while I was away dealing with a family emergency and not able to email him back immediately. Oddly enough, the suspension beat the truck to me.
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    Install went pretty well, although the shop that did it did find something which required a little fab work. The OEM right rear link has a ride height sensor that the TC link couldn’t accept. ORW ended up welding a bracket onto the TC link to allow the sensor to work, neither they or TC had ran into that yet with the Tundras they’ve worked on. I’ve also sent images of what ORW did to TC, since they hadn’t mentioned it to me prior.

    *Side note: If you’re in SoCal I can’t recommend ORW Corona enough. I’ve used other ORW’s and 4WP and the Corona shop is heads above in every way.

    Below is an example of the sensor linkage.
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    As far as the front, I’ve got about 11 threads showing on the coilovers and no rub I can ascertain with my wheel/tire combo. Rear is using stock coils and the truck sits pretty level.

    For wheels and tires, I’m using 17” Method 703’s with a +35 offset (6.2” backspacing) and 35x12.5 BFG KO2’s. This combination fits beautifully and tucks very well. As an aside, I was able to fit a full size spare under the bed. My BFG’s are about 34” right now and that’s as big as they could be and still fit under there without hitting the panhard bar.
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    It’s close, but there’s at least .5” of room with the tire stops unmodified. The tire sits low, but still about .5-1” above the bottom of the rear diff.

    Overall, I’m exceptionally happy with the truck and build. I was not a fan of the OR suspension, the TC and Kings firmed the truck up and eliminated a lot of the roll I previously had, while still feeling comfortable compared to the Icon kits I had on my previous Tacoma.
     

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  21. Jan 6, 2023 at 11:06 AM
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    Looks great! What did ORW charge to install the lift?
     
  22. Jan 6, 2023 at 1:31 PM
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    Thanks man!

    They charged $1968 for labor on install of the suspension components and Kings. Substantially less than what a some people are paying for install on the TRD 3” kits (though those kits come with other parts my truck already had).

    For comparison, my local 4WP quoted me $2K for install as well.

    Labor for m&b on the tires/wheels was $168.

    I also paid a little more on top of that for labor for them to weld up the tab for that ride height sensor, otherwise they could have just deleted it and I’d imagine you can clear any codes that show up.
     
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    My Tacoma kings had a squeak coming from the lower shock mount bolt on the fronts. WD40 that and see if it quiets down.
     
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    Okay so anyone know the diameter of the coils. I put in the 3.5 inch life and removed the stock coil insulators that kinda look like a cone. I removed it because I have airbags in the coils. I need an aftermarket insulator that will provide a buffer between the coil and the frame but not add any lift.
     
  25. Jan 7, 2023 at 6:54 PM
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    Can’t you just cut the cone part off?
     
  26. Jan 7, 2023 at 7:36 PM
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    Hi all - I started a thread to ask the question, but I guess I should have just posted the question here: Has anyone had any experience with Readylifts 2 inch SST lift kit for rear air equipped Tundras? Front and back (including adjustment lever extensions).

    Sounds like a relatively new release? Anyone have any reviews or experience?

    Thoughts?
     
  27. Jan 7, 2023 at 7:54 PM
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    You’re supposed to cut the cone down per the instructions from Firestone

    Exactly

    readylift is kind of mid pack spacer lift, if you go off-road skip it
     
  28. Jan 8, 2023 at 1:32 PM
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    Yeah, I already got rid of the original cones when I did the spacer lift I can buy new stock ones and cut the cone off but they’re pretty expensive I was looking for a potentially cheaper option. This is an initial I’m having with the airbags it’s an issue because I just installed a new 3 1/half inch suspension lift, and I can’t use the Dobson coil spacers because it’ll raise the rear truck up an entire inch so I’m looking for just some insulation between the coil and the frame I suppose I could order the stock and cut them again should’ve saved them
     
  29. Jan 8, 2023 at 1:34 PM
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    Wait you took the cone piece off and didn’t install it with the spacer lift? You’re supposed to leave that between the coil and spacer for the spacer lift.
    I would be concerned if I were you IF you’re saying you just have the coil, no “cone piece” between the coil and frame bc that cone piece also centers the coil. Without it, your coils are probably miss-aligned or justified one way in the cup that’s on the frame.

    see this guys write up.
    https://www.tundras.com/threads/off-road-build-with-diy-and-production-mods.105476/page-4
     
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  30. Jan 8, 2023 at 3:38 PM
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    No you are misunderstanding me. When you put in a spacer lift like I did you can’t use the cones. I used a 30mm polyurethane Dobson spacer for the coils. Now that I no longer have a spacer life and a suspension lift I need a coil insulator like the stock version minus the cone. I could buy the cones and cut them but that just a waste. I also cannot use the e cones because I have the Firestone airbags in my coils.
     

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