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3/4 Ton Truck

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by A-A-Ron, Jun 15, 2020.

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Best New 3/4 Ton Diesel Option

  1. Ram

    26.3%
  2. GMC

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  3. Ford

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  1. Jan 13, 2022 at 12:11 PM
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    Trick question best 3/4 ton was 7.3 idi or 12v cummins. Everything else is lady trucks.
     
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  2. Jan 13, 2022 at 12:34 PM
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    Only the 93-94 idi since they had a turbo that year.
     
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  4. Jan 13, 2022 at 2:27 PM
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    None yet…….
    No trick question at all. There is only one answer. Unless you’re talking about gasholes. I’m which I’ll have no definitive answer for, cause I drive real working trucks…

    5.9L, 12valve Cummins is hands down, the absolute best 3/4 ton work truck. One ton as well. As long as it’s in a Dodge body :rofl:

    I don’t have much good to say about my new 24v yet. Need to do some upgrades.
     
  5. Jan 13, 2022 at 2:46 PM
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    please elaborate on your vast knowledge.
     
  6. Jan 13, 2022 at 2:47 PM
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    None yet…….

    I have been driving diesels for 22 years. I professionally haul horses between Alaska and the Lower 48. I wouldn’t be caught dead owning a power stroke or duramax.

    The Ram is hands down the best diesel motor. Now, we are combined with the Mercedes’ G56, 6 speed, manual transmission. Hands down, by far, our best transmission yet. The NV 45 and 5500 were both crap. I took out a couple of them.

    I’ve hauled over 30,000 lbs over 1500 miles through 12+% grade hills that go for 10 miles. (I’ll attach a photo, 363- 65 pound bales plus trailer weight)
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    also will attach photos of hauling a 32,000lb 1969 caterpillar, and horses.
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    forget the question you got being answered by a bunch of gashole loving tundra drivers, (NO offense… I have a tundra too, just don’t let them haul if possible) clearly they enjoy comfort, not durability.

    advice: buy a Cummins ram, 2006-2009 or so would be less computers. Or go with a nice low mileage 12v. But, first thing you do, is put a South Bend Dual Disk clutch (SBDDC) before you go anywhere. My last Cummins, paired with a 30,000lb (not meant for road travel) SBDDC, lasted me 12 years without issue. Clutch still going strong with no repairs. I let go of the truck for an upgrade.
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    I did this one with a busted intercooler. Multiple trips to the junk yard.

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    I’ll stop here. I have a million pictures. The Cummins motor has never let me down. NV 4500 transmission, yes.

    Hope this helps.

    edited:
    I haul these loads at speed without delay or issue. But these trucks had either an ATS aurora 3000 or 5000 turbo. (Depending on the truck you’re looking at, I’ve had lots)
     
  7. Jan 13, 2022 at 5:34 PM
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    We should probably stay within the last decade of trucks. Recommending a 12V 3/4 ton that was last offered in 1998.5 is just not practical. By now, 24 years later it will be showing it’s age. They also couldn’t tow or stop what a current truck offers.

    The Cummins engine is legendary. The fueling systems have not always been, but that isn’t the “Cummins” issue. VE/VP44/CP4 injection systems have proven that point. Hell, I even ate a CP3 on my common rail which was shocking since that’s a 500k mile pump.

    I’ve owned two Cummins powered trucks (2004.5 and 2002 HO) and they were ok at best. This time around when the wife and I started looking for a diesel tow rig again, we had some criteria:

    1) skip the 3/4 ton and go directly to 1 ton. We agreed on this.
    2) had to buy a daily driver. No more driving diesels.
    3) wife demanded no dodge or she would bring home divorce papers. We just sank so much money in them and constant money pits. They ruined a few family vacations for sure. I did go look at them, but didn’t want to test out my wife’s seriousness on the topic.

    Like @SnowyTundra said, the transmissions in Dodges were pretty undesirable. The NV5600 was a joke (I fragged one), the NV4500 was better if you did the 5th gear spindle nut upgrade. Still couldn’t handle the power. We won’t even get into the 47/48RE transmissions.

    Let’s look to the now and live in the present. Ram makes a solid truck. Even more so if you stay in the 1 ton segment to get the HO Cummins and Aisin transmission. Interior is probably the nicest out of all of the big three. Luckily the Cummins motor is made lighter now and will probably be a little easier on front end ball joints/steering components that fail earlier than competitors. Ram has really stepped up their game and as much as it pains me to say, it’s a solid choice for a heavy hauler.

    Not the only choice for heavy hauling. I know plenty of people that haul hay with Fords and GMs with over 250k miles and minimal issues.
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    Hell, I know a heavy RV hotshot that has 1.2M on his 2006.5 Duramax. It’s all about how you drive them and the duty cycles one puts them through. Long hauling will definitely be easier on them then in town work horses that start and stop all day long.
     
  8. Jan 14, 2022 at 4:46 AM
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    I never thought of it that way, but makes perfect sense. Don’t get me wrong the 6spd is tried and true and the 3.73 is still an excellent towing gear, but it just leaves you wanting a little more.
     
  9. Jan 14, 2022 at 5:06 AM
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    The new 10 speed with a 4.10 rear end like the 6.0 had would’ve been great.
     
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    I always tell people my biases. I am a Chevy/GMC guy, but if you look at the trucks today, let's say 2017-2022, all manufacturers make an absolute workhorse HD truck (gas & diesel). You can get into specifics around how long things last due to emissions crap and other regulatory requirements compared to older models.

    If I could my perfect truck, I would get a Cummins with an Allison transmission and put it on a Ford frame and body. My $0.02
     
  11. Jan 15, 2022 at 6:48 PM
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    My friends tundra with e rated tires and a leaf pack from australia with firestone air bags does just as well as them 3/4 l- 1 ton junk
    Trucks.
     
  12. Jan 15, 2022 at 8:23 PM
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    Jk guys, i was just poking fun at the fools who overload their tundras and I want to acknowledge my bias that tundras are the best 1/2 tons.
     
  15. Jan 16, 2022 at 3:37 PM
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    so what you’re really saying is that e rated isn’t enough, i need F rated tires to be a 3/4 ton? :anonymous:
     
  16. Jan 16, 2022 at 4:47 PM
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    Go all in and go G 14 ply.
     
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    Z rated in all actuality.
     
  18. Jan 16, 2022 at 5:37 PM
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    The only real sensible option are these, although they may rub at full lock.

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    8 lug wheel adapters would be smarter actually
     
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    I liked my 10’ Dodge Cummins 3/4 ton crew cab 4x4 with 6speed manual trans. Would tow anything with ease and good mpg. But like any typical Dodge once it hit 100,000 miles it started falling apart.
     
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    What do you guys think about a 2015 Ford F-250 super duty xlt 6.2L gasser? I can get this for $28k but not sure if of fords since I hear a lot of bad things about other makers vs Toyota lol


    2015 Ford Super Duty - F 250 - 6 Speed Automatic Transmission - 73,000 miles - XLT Crew Cab - 4 WD - 6.2 Liter - Gas Engine - 10,000 LB. GWR - Back up camera -

    B&W 5th wheel hitch & gooseneck hook up - Locking Front Hubs - Locking Rear Differential - Over Drive & Cruse controll - CD stereo - New Rancho Shocks - New Exhaust & Muffler - New Radiator - Set up to pull - Nice Truck - Runs Great.
     
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    Could be ok. Might be worth a test drive and inspection by an independent mechanic you trust.

    I always assume guys sell their trucks because they're having problems with them but at 73k miles, it doesn't look like this guy is dumping it right as the warranty expires. Old enough to not be a lease but, since it's a SD, it probably was worked hard so that's a moot point. Then again, I'm not sure how many heavy duty trucks wouldn't have been.
     
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    Only thing that makes me hesitate is the 6.2 of that generation. I've driven a couple and think my lawnmower has better power. Like trying to pass a semi on a 100 km/h speed limit highway is a 2 km long ordeal. I used on for pulling sleds/atvs and going up 6% 1km long grades it was stressing out to keep up 100 km/h. Do that same pull in a Tundra (or Ford 3.5 and 5.0) and they do 1 or 2 downshifts and cruise up at 3-3.5k RPM, not 5.5k RPM like that 6.2.

    Don't know which year Ford upgraded the 6.2, but drove a 2020 with the same size engine and it was night/day different from the older 6.2s I drove. So I'd highly recommend a highway drive with it, and if you can deal with the power of the truck then it's not a bad truck. The second thing to check thoroughly is the electronics - I've had multiple window switches and stereos not work properly in Fords of that generation.
     
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    yeah I’m not sure when does switched to 6.2 but I was kinda figuring that the tundra is almost the same truck as that ford except the payload and towing capacity
     
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    Even the newer 6.2 is noticeably down on power from the half ton engines. They do drive similarly - for towing I'd say they're the same (more power in half ton, but more sag) but the F250 is much stiffer in the rear suspension so payload is the huge difference.

    Me personally in a truck of that age I like the Ram 6.4 engine the best by far, then the GM 6.0, with Ford 6.2 just behind. Ford and GM finally improved a few years ago with the 6.6 and 7.3, but those prices even used are insane.
     
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    I bought a 21 Titan XD Pro 4X model. It has a stickered payload of 1985 lbs. My 2014 Tundra had a stickered payload of 1300 lbs. When I tow my 4800 lb travel trailer (fully loaded) with wife, 3 teens, one small dog, and bicycles in the bed, I was around 1450 lbs payload. This included my WDH.

    We have intentions of moving to a larger travel trailer, about 7500 fully loaded, which would add about 300 - 400 lbs to payload. So for the 4-5 times a year we take the trailer out, I would anticipate my payload to be around 1800 lbs on drives within 4 - 5 hours. I originally looked at 3/4 tons, but they are just too much truck for the rest of the time. My wife drives the truck as her dd and her commute is less than 10 miles per day in mostly city (suburb) driving conditions. The Titan XD is just enough truck for our needs.

    Compared to the Tundra, the ride is similar. The Titan has a larger turning radius because of the longer wheelbase. I have a 6 1/2 foot bed in the Titan. It has a 5.6 l gas v8. The exhaust sound is much better than the Tundra. The interior is nicer. The stereo is 10x better. I was considering a new 22 Tundra if I could get the long bed crew cab with 1700 lbs payload. Sadly, the payload numbers didn't improve enough. The Titan's frame is fully boxed and beefier than the 2.5 gen Tundra. It has beefier steering components and driveshaft. The rear axle is bigger. And it comes with a 5 year 100k bumper to bumper warranty. The Titan has a much quieter interior with better material quality than my 2.5 gen. The gas mileage is just as poor as the Tundra (12.5 ave) - Titan (11.8 ave with only 1800 miles on it so far).

    If Toyota built a similar truck in terms of capability, I would have bought it. I just have more faith in Toyota for the long run. But since I don't need a true HD truck, the Titan XD felt like the right compromise. I also have a 2017 Armada that has the same 5.6 engine and that has been trouble free (knock on wood). I actually had more issues with the Tundra over the first 5 years of ownership than I've had with the Armada (again knock on wood). When I bought this in early 2022, I got 5k off of MSRP for the Titan while the best I could do with Toyota was at MSRP. And Nissan gave me $1500 more trade for my Tundra than any of the Toyota dealers. So the XD cost me less than a comparable Tundra.

    I'm not advocating that the Titan XD is in any way similar to a domestic HD. It was just the right choice for us. My wife loves driving it as much as she loved the Tundra.
     
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    I have the exact work truck. From what I was told, 5 Star Tuning is what you will want to wake the 6.2 up to Raptor power levels.
     
  28. Apr 15, 2022 at 10:33 AM
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    I wouldn't worry too much about long term reliability. My co-worker today has a 2010 Titan with 100K on it without any issues. His son was given his old 2004 Titan with 200K on it for his first vehicle. He hasn't done a lot with that truck either.
     
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    I think the challenge with the Titan XD was that the new ones cost as much as domestic one tons but had a lot less capability.
     
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    how much does that cost?
     

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