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23K miles: Factory Battery Failure

Discussion in '3rd Gen TRD Pro (2014+)' started by VA10, Jan 23, 2017.

  1. Jan 23, 2017 at 8:40 AM
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    VA10

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    Reminder to check your battery health.

    My trucks battery has died 3 times in the past 4 weeks. One time was due to my negligence by not turning off my aux lightning. Anyways, went to run an errand to pickup a tool yesterday and notthhhhhing not even a crank. just the "tic-tic-tic" noise. I jumped the truck which took 3 attempts to get it to turn over. Even after I got to run it would not start after driving for 20 minutes. Toyota replaced the battery same day they did a battery test which it failed. they replaced the battery under warranty no questions asked.

    Symptoms I noticed the day before the battery totally died.
    1. weaker acceleration (particularly from a stop)
    2. MPGs dropped drastically (average went to 6.8mpgs)
    3. Truck sounded muffled when accelerating at highway speeds (really had to step on the gas)
     
  2. Jan 23, 2017 at 2:08 PM
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    When running off the alternator all the time, the fuel economy really tanks quick.

    FYI to everyone, Toyota batteries are under warranty for 8 years.
     
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  3. Feb 13, 2017 at 3:47 PM
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    That's is good to know thanks
     
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    Thanks TJ!
     
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  5. Feb 13, 2017 at 5:18 PM
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    Learned something new today! Thanks Chris!
     
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  6. Feb 13, 2017 at 6:25 PM
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    Had my truck for 2 months and this happened. Unfortunately it was a Sunday afternoon and the truck was needed for work Monday morning at 2 am. I went and got an odyssey. The dealership wouldn't refund the cost since the OEM battery went in as collateral. Had my OEM battery in my FJ for 8 yrs...never a problem...and that included living in Vegas for 3 years and South Dakota for 3.5 yrs.
     
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  8. Feb 13, 2017 at 9:54 PM
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    I'd rather have a battery last for 8 years with a 3 year warranty. I swapped out my 07's OEM battery at 7 yrs old. Was still good. Bought the same OEM mfr battery. ......It sucks. Following Vipers lead....North Star.
     
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  9. Feb 13, 2017 at 11:13 PM
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    Mine didn't even last that long I replaced it at 12K the cold weather this winter ate it up. I wanted to get a north start but would have had to wait a week to get it so I went with a optima yellow top.
     
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  10. Feb 17, 2017 at 10:38 AM
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  11. Feb 20, 2017 at 10:31 AM
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    alternators are designed to maintain and not recharge a dead battery. That is what they make battery chargers for. Also, the life of an automotive battery can be severely shortened by just one discharge/charge cycle. The plates in automotive batteries are not designed to do this.
     
  12. Feb 20, 2017 at 10:38 AM
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    Not a bad choice. I like the Yellow Top's! Good batteries.


    Thank you. Didn't realize that this would happen from one discharge cycle.
     
  13. Feb 20, 2017 at 11:51 AM
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    I'll just leave this here. An alternator can and will recharge a battery, if no damage has occurred.

    Regulator......

    http://www.autoshop101.com/trainmodules/alternator/alt101.html

    http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/howitworks.shtml
     
  14. Feb 20, 2017 at 12:36 PM
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    3 year old Tacoma died within months of a discharge. I do not think it was a coincidence. I took my mom's car battery out frog gigging once and it never fully recovered. Not saying an alternator will not recharge a dead battery it is just not good for them and not what they are designed to do on a regular basis.
     
  15. Feb 20, 2017 at 12:52 PM
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    It wasn't a coincidence, like you said. It was due to damaging a cell.

    Yellow tops are a mid range AGM battery that uses recycled lead. Not bad, but way better option now. Optimas where way better 10 years ago before being sold and now being manufactured in Mexico.

    I have a yellow top in my Jeep, not bad and I have killed it dead like 10 times in the past year. I have a current draw someplace. I'll eventually find it.
     
  16. Feb 20, 2017 at 7:47 PM
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    Should have waited. We, (where I work at) had a long term calibration contract with Optima. They were made right here in Aurora, CO for years. (google it) Now made south of "our" border. $20+ an hour labor vs $2 an hour >>>> Not political....simple economics. $20 per hour gets you a decent battery. $2 per hour.......??? Do the math.
     
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    Damn fact Matt.
     
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    MABA>>>>>>>>>>>>Make batteries great again.
     
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    I am considering replacing my OEM battery as a precaution, but I'm not sure if I'm being wasteful by doing so. What are your thoughts guys?

    My truck is a 2014, garage kept, ~11k miles.

    No issues so far, just don't want to have to scramble to get one when it goes.
     
  20. Aug 21, 2017 at 9:51 AM
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    I'll trade you mileage. I have 38k on my 2014.
     
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    Toss in the SC and you have a deal!!!
     
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    Sure. My buddy sent it to Magunson to be rebuilt on his dime for his truck.

    Barrings and nose cone
     
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    Whoa, I just checked your build thread. I had no idea you were having issues. I don't know how I missed that! That's ashame man, sounds like my luck! What is the current status?
     
  24. Aug 21, 2017 at 11:27 AM
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    Got into it with Toyota. They approved the warranty work for a nose cone as the tech and FST (who flew into CO to approve the repair) advised "no signs of abuse or neglect noted"

    Two weeks later Toyota said nahhh, just kidding. Hope it gets you in the feels, Sean.

    Long story short, had them remove and replace back to factory.

    What a shame. I only had it in for 10k miles.
     
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    My trucks battery started giving me troubles at 87k. It wasn't holding amps so I threw in a Duracell one a little bigger. Mine's a 2016 btw. But I wasn't very easy on my battery. I wouldn't replace unless needed. I take mine out to some remote locations in the winter time but I don't foresee myself doing any extra battery mantience.
     
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    I would probably have shed tears while peeling off the "supercharged" decals... Sorry brother, that's a bummer.
     
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    Good info, thanks. I think I'm going to hold off for a bit longer.
     
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    Fuck me sideways. Truck didn't like starting up today...sounded like it had to struggle for power. I don't have the time to go mess with Toyota- guess I'll have to try to Autozone to get one
     
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    Sean do you have a second vehicle? Maybe you can drop off the battery at Toyota. Let them to do the test and pick up a replacement later.
     
  30. Aug 26, 2017 at 6:40 AM
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    My battery failed at 18k. Only thing I noticed was the day prior it seemed like it was slightly weak (almost not noticeable just the very slightest hesitation) next day it wouldn't start.
     
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