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2022 Tundra

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by 0.S.T., Apr 6, 2020.

  1. Jul 19, 2021 at 3:27 PM
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    It will probably be a good truck (unless it follows the taco path). But this "world beater" stuff so far seems like a bunch of empty hype train garbage.

    Great MPG and the reliability of the current gen, plus better handling and payload would a massive win in my book. Aftermarket will address the rest, just like it ALWAYS has for Toyotas.

    Ya know?
     
  2. Jul 19, 2021 at 3:31 PM
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    Anyone know anyone who heard of anyone who wants the F150 diesel? Might have more to do with the duramax kicking their ass, thinking finding a TRD Pro is hard, try finding an AT4 with a baby Duramax.
     
  3. Jul 19, 2021 at 3:44 PM
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    The mini Powerstroke wasn't a bad engine. Not sure why no one bought them. It probably had to do with the fact that you could buy an F250 Powerstroke for not much more but F150 owners cried for years about wanting a diesel. I think I've only ever seen 2 F150 diesels out of the thousands I see every year on the road and job sites.
     
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    I think that has more to do with how few 1/2 ton Duramax's they made available. I tried looking for one 1.5 years ago and out of about 100 GM half tons 5 were Duramax's, and out of that 1 would be AT4 trim. They were incredibly rare prior to the chip shortage, I can only imagine how hard it is to find one now. It was easier to find an 1 ton gasser that wasn't fleet trim than it was to find a Duramax GM half ton.
     
  5. Jul 19, 2021 at 3:46 PM
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    Have one as a work truck right now - engine is meh but the transmission is very clunky. Don't see the point of them unless towing 6k+ every day, which is probably why they're going away.
     
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  6. Jul 19, 2021 at 3:47 PM
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    Significant bump in payload of 1600 or more and 30mpg might move the needle. Right now off everything I've seen I'm a No
     
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    Yeah I honestly don't see the appeal of a half ton diesels. If I'm going to deal with the insane maintenance cost of owning a modern diesel it better pull a damn house like the Super Duty. This is coming from an ex Super Duty owner. LOL
     
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  8. Jul 19, 2021 at 3:56 PM
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    I'm the same, the cost difference just isn't enough from a half ton diesel to the HD diesels, and they sure don't feel like the same engine. HD diesels are intoxicating they have so much power, half ton diesels are just boring.
     
  9. Jul 19, 2021 at 4:37 PM
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    I wanted a faster vehicle so I also bought a Chevy SS... because 4 door sedans with big V8’s are hilarious.

    I too would love to see an inline 6 turbo diesel offered, but I’m more likely to win the lottery and I don’t buy tickets.

    As far as fuel efficiency under load, smaller displace turbo gas engine vs larger displacement NA I do not disagree with you that the larger NA motor is going to be more fuel efficient more often than not. Here’s where our disagreement might begin: we are talking about 1/2 ton pick up trucks. You mention a relatively heavy, slow, poor handling sedan as what the TTV6 1/2 ton is. Well my friend that is what all 1/2 tons are designed for. Occasionally towing or hauling heavy, and otherwise doing family duty and light duty towing and hauling. So an engine that gives more power when you need it to work that 5-10% (or likely much less) of the time under heavy load, but gives significantly better efficiency the other 90-95% of the time is a far superior choice in a 1/2 ton.

    If you find yourself frequently towing a heavy trailer or loading the truck down buy a bigger truck than a 1/2 ton. Not only will you get the engine, cooling package, and transmission you need but the frame, axles, and brakes too. If that describes you, then sadly Toyota isn’t interested in your business.
     
  10. Jul 19, 2021 at 4:50 PM
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    . I see this sort of explanation all the time on this forum, don't know where people got it in their heads that half ton trucks aren't "trucks". If they are designed correct, then they are fully capable as trucks for doing a lot of hauling under load. Gasoline TTV6s are not. 5.7L V8 with a big rear axle is. No coincidence that the two first million mile tundras, albeit 4.7Ls, belonged to drivers that primarily towed all their miles. They were work trucks that worked as trucks.
     
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    100% true, and I fear Toyota is going to try to compromise. So it won't have a good ride, won't have the best fuel mileage, and will have just a bit more payload than the other half tons but not be stiff enough to carry it well.
     
  12. Jul 19, 2021 at 4:54 PM
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    It may be hard to find one to buy, but I see them everywhere now. At first they were far and few between but they've really taken off in the past year. I drive a ton for work and I don't think Ive ever seen a ministroke on the road and only a handful of ram's with the eco.
    But if I see a new gm it's either a 5.3 or duramax. The 6.2 is the rarity
     
  13. Jul 19, 2021 at 4:56 PM
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    Keep hearing rumors that the V8 will carry on into the 2022.

    Do y'all think Toyota will upgrade the 5.7 a bit, or just straight up carryover? I could see them throwing D4S on it to get it to that magic 400hp mark.

    Personally, I'd be surprised if the V8 is an option, but I'd be even more shocked if Toyota threw money at it.......
     
  15. Jul 19, 2021 at 5:04 PM
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    And yet even the guys on the GM forums say the 5.3 is shit and the 6.2 or 3.0 are the only way to go.
     
  16. Jul 19, 2021 at 5:05 PM
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    this is what we have been waiting for? I really hope there are other options. That head unit looks like an F150 grille
     
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    I suspect it's gone. I believe some of the more reliable sources (or at least less unreliable sources) said two engines, which I would interpret as the 3.5TT V6 hybrid and non-hybrid versions.
     
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    6.2 is a good engine, but the 3.0, isn't there some part sandwiched between the trans and engine that'll be a nightmare for long term ownership?

    I do hear excellent things about it's driveability
     
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    Timing belt, I think, yeah. I'd never own one anyway but that's just another reason to stay away.
     
  20. Jul 19, 2021 at 5:08 PM
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    I also suspect it's gone, but keep hearing the rumour. The current 5.7 is so thirsty, I think if it did return it'd need more than just a 10AT
     
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  21. Jul 19, 2021 at 5:22 PM
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    It's the oil pump belt you have to remove the trans to replace but I think the interval is 150k. I would be more worried about the complex systems before I was worried about that belt, although it is a dumb design.
     
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  22. Jul 19, 2021 at 5:41 PM
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    So to recap the thread so far, we're all really pissed off because Toyota is doing a slow roll and won't show us anything. But we've seen enough to know the new truck is ugly and the interior is lame and the engine won't last 100k miles.

    This is gonna be so fun.
     
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    I think it's a uni body, on new tundra
     
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    A 700-ftlb hybrid drivetrain with 25-30mpg and 2k+ lbs of payload would be a world beater.

    The rumors about the drivetrain and the rear undercarriage spy pics lead me to believe this is going to be more of a full-size Hilux and less of a larger Tacoma.
     
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    9,372 posts later someone finally got a interior spy picture.
     
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    This guys thinks the V8 will be an option:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFTa-DS3Sxs
     
  27. Jul 19, 2021 at 6:06 PM
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    I don't think a few 100k miles will be a problem for any Toyota, I kind of like the front and the profile. But the tailgate, and those interior spy shots, how'd the plans for that crap make it out of the design room shred box.
     
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    What is it with the Taco's power struggles? The wife has an 05' 4runner w/ the 4.0L, I believe rated at 245hp. I don't regularly drive it but power seems sufficient. Today's taco 3.5L is what @278hp. (max rpm or close) why is it such a slug?
     
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    Have we officially seen the tailgate yet?
     
  30. Jul 19, 2021 at 6:16 PM
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    Yes on the leaked dealer photos. It was a red Pro. I'll see if I can find the picture
     
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