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2022 Tundra

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by 0.S.T., Apr 6, 2020.

  1. Jun 22, 2021 at 11:43 AM
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    At a quick glance without paying attention to any actual detail they look similar. But they are nothing alike. The grille shape and headlight shape are not the same at all. The way the front of the hood meets the grill is different, the hood is a different shape, the fenders are completely different and the fog lights are in 2 different places. There both white and black and thats about all thats the same.

    People saying it looks just like "x" truck i feel like tried to put the square in a triangle hole on there playset as a kid.:D
     
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  2. Jun 22, 2021 at 11:48 AM
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  3. Jun 22, 2021 at 12:00 PM
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    I wanted a faster vehicle so I also bought a Chevy SS... because 4 door sedans with big V8’s are hilarious.
    But they’re both white! With black trim around the wheel arches. They both have round tires! ROUND! Clearly a copy.

    Both have gigantic grilles! Huge unsightly things that look like a gaping maw, or a fish mouth.

    Toyota really screwed this design up, along with all the other truck makers. I think all the current Tundra owners will agree, especially 2021 owners, that a huge grille is just bad. Very bad. It would be far better for the 2022 to have a 250hp engine, that way Toyota wouldn’t need big radiator(s) for the air to water intercooler, and engine coolant. Then they could use a tiny grille, and that would be better to have less cooling; because if the 2022 ends up being loads better than the 2021 they just bought, then that means they might have made a mistake.
     
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  4. Jun 22, 2021 at 12:04 PM
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    The line is a sporty/off road thing to know where your wheels are quickly - Yes the entire steering wheel is quite obvious to see if your wheels are square, but the stripe has the cool factor. Raptor is the first truck to get it, but far from the first vehicle to get it.

    When something is purely cosmetic then it's annoying to see copied, but when there's actual function (V6TT and stripe) or legal (5 amber lights - still to be confirmed to be required) then why not copy a good design.
     
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  5. Jun 22, 2021 at 12:06 PM
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    I agree. Toyota is definitely not above reproach, but this is one of those situations where it's easy to be critical through the internet. It would be an enormous challenge for anyone to design a look that balances Toyota familiarity, aggression, functionality, limits of manufacturability, and ensuring enough change that people don't complain it's too similar to the current get - while - avoiding similarities to the other major truck manufacturers who are pushing the boundaries in their own regard.

    Personally I think they've done a pretty decent good job at balancing all of those qualities. Hey, look at the all new F150, it looks like the previous gen with new headlight assemblies.

    It goes without saying that looks aren't everything. Foundationally it has to perform competitively and reliably.
     
  6. Jun 22, 2021 at 12:13 PM
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    Methinks deletion of a grabhandle was to save a few dollars per unit. The passenger side has the same A-pillar but has a grabhandle. The Tacoma lost the driver side grabhandle also, still has the passenger side. Not a huge deal, the driver can use the steering wheel as a kindasorta grabhandle for ingress. The Sequoia was built in a different plant (TMMI) than Tundra/Tacoma and only ~13k units/yr so maybe they decided to just leave it in the Seq.

    Same deal with deleting the aux trans cooler from the Tundra and Tacoma, save a few dollars per unit for the final production years and still "perform within expected operating specs" or whatever mumbojumbo Sweers spouted.

    Toyota built a completely new Tacoma plant in Guanajato Mexico for $2 billion, plus retooled San Antonio to produce TNGA-F Tundras and Sequoias for about $1 billion. Saving $300 per unit for a few years at the end of the model cycle and charging the same MSRP offsets new investment.

    I had to roll my eyes when I bought a 2012 Tacoma and went to open the passenger door with the key, there wasn't a key opening. Makes bizness sense I guess, how often would people use it or complain about it, and saving 20 bucks per unit adds up.

    Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing the next gen Sequoia. This '19 is a roomy, versatile, multi-function beast but 5mpg more would be great.
     
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  7. Jun 22, 2021 at 12:24 PM
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    Just talked to my local dealership owner… he sells a shit ton of Toyota vehicles and here’s his RUMOR:

    The 3.5 won’t be quite ready for a fall release. He says there may be a very limited run of 2022s with the 5.7 v8, just so they can still have a 2022 model.
     
  8. Jun 22, 2021 at 12:25 PM
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    I wanted a faster vehicle so I also bought a Chevy SS... because 4 door sedans with big V8’s are hilarious.
    The part that worries me is that Sweers or someone at Toyota seems to be more interested in cutting their way to higher profit by cheating out on features. The grab handle, and transmission cooler being a couple of notable examples.

    If this is the direction Toyota is taking with the 2022 then it’s a bad turn.
     
  9. Jun 22, 2021 at 12:27 PM
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    I wanted a faster vehicle so I also bought a Chevy SS... because 4 door sedans with big V8’s are hilarious.
    Yeah. No.

    Toyota is not going to spend the billion dollars it takes to stick the 5.7L in a truck not designed for it and then EPA and CARB cert it to sell for a few months.

    You buddy is wrong.
     
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  10. Jun 22, 2021 at 12:35 PM
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    I don't think the passenger one has as much impact on ratings as the driver. Dummies still hit their heads on it yes, but there will be lots of times that the passenger seat so I don't know that it is weighed as heavily.

    There have been much smarter people than me that have already explained that the new refrigerant mandated after 2018 would have made the 2018 trans cooler design not function properly. Yes, they opted to delete it instead of redesigning it, but I don't think they would have pulled the trans cooler from later MYs if they still functioned as designed.

    Savings would be less than $300 per unit. You can get one yourself for a hair over that, and there is huge mark ups on price. It doesn't invalidate your point that small savings over large numbers of vehicles add up, but it helps to keep it in perspective. If they wanted to really save money, they could drop a whole trim line, save way way more, and not get questioned on their integrity about it.

    This one I think is more for the aesthetics. It's also done by TONS of auto manufacturers.
     
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  11. Jun 22, 2021 at 12:39 PM
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    Of course. The world is out to get you. Clutch to your fear. :rolleyes:

    They could save way more money with other deletions, but they don't do them. Wonder why. Could it be that both of those have perfectly reasonable explanations?:monocle:

    Don't get me wrong, I would way rather have a cooler, and I will add one some day, but I also am willing to admit that I am an outsider to their industry. What customers do we all hate the most? The assholes that scream, yell, pout, throw tantrums, and all because they have no clue how the service/product/business they are sniveling about works.

    You've got a CDL, right? Tell me, how much do your average car drivers know about the world of 80,000+ lbs missiles, but they sure will light you up and tell you how do drive one!
     
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  12. Jun 22, 2021 at 12:43 PM
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    lol, you read my mind, that is no simple undertaking
     
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    I highly doubt that - check out YouTubers who do engine swaps and there's a TON of work. The only way it would work is if they designed the new frame and accessories with the idea the old 5.7 and the new V6TT would be in very similar positions. And at that point it would need all new intakes and exhaust piping. It would be a huge cost for just a limited run.
     
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  14. Jun 22, 2021 at 12:44 PM
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    You’re probably right!
     
  15. Jun 22, 2021 at 12:45 PM
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    I wanted a faster vehicle so I also bought a Chevy SS... because 4 door sedans with big V8’s are hilarious.
    No CDL here LOL. My professional license is under 49 CFR Part 240/242, and has nothing to do with motor vehicle operations on public roads.
     
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  17. Jun 22, 2021 at 1:01 PM
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    Today's Toyota picture release...I spy JBL on the speaker grilles under the grab handles. Makes me shake my head a bit unless it is 50X better than it is in the current models.

     
  18. Jun 22, 2021 at 1:03 PM
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    jbl makes pro-grade equipment along with the cheap-line garbage. You can have what you are willing to pay for. toyo isn't known to pay up. After market is your friend is you want better.
     
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    Woah. Would it have the 8- or 10-speed?

    That could be awesome….lighter truck, better payload, 8 or 10 gears behind the 5.7. Imagine that truck with a supercharger…
     
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    good catch, I was really hoping they were moving away from JBL, that is going to need to improve 100 fold
     
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    It's just like everything...there's always something better. That's why JRT put a new system in my 20 Pro...now, I've got better volume than the old transistor radio I had as a kit.
     
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    It should do like JRT's system does me now...sometimes my crinklestar vibrates...or heart skips a beat. I like to rock it out.
     
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    yup, up until now, if you wanted to jam out to good sounding tunes, you had to go aftermarket for teh tundra, I guess we will see what they do with this one. Im not holding my breath, what came with my platinum was just TOTAL SHIT.

    let see what they do this time.
     
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    I wanted a faster vehicle so I also bought a Chevy SS... because 4 door sedans with big V8’s are hilarious.
    I do sound the Morse for the letter “Q” often, and loudly.
     
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    what would be totally lame, but also totally toyota, is them to roll out this next gen tundra without that new system, LOL
     
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    I wanted a faster vehicle so I also bought a Chevy SS... because 4 door sedans with big V8’s are hilarious.
    Yep, roll out the old infotainment system and of course a “fancy” JBL audio system with 6 of the cheapest tinniest sounding speakers available.

    No transmission cooler. No rear locker. Mid pack power, payload, and towing.

    A small fuel tank that shows empty at 3/4 actual capacity.

    Then increase the price by $8000.00.
     
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    Will they have a leaking cam tower seal?

    won’t be the same without that

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    It looks awesome! I ordered the same Kenwood unit for $1,200. A friend of mine messed up with my head and told me I could get this Boss BE10ACP unit for $370. Same 10.1" screen size. Have any of you looked into it. It is an $800 price difference. https://bossaudio.com/product/be10acp/ https://www.amazon.com/BOSS-Audio-Systems-Elite-BE10ACP/dp/B08NXZM6F6
     
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