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2022 Tundra

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by 0.S.T., Apr 6, 2020.

  1. Jun 8, 2021 at 8:28 PM
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    DrZoidberg

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    I just don't get it. They can release something. Don't even have to give us specs. Just give a photo of the exterior and interior. The fucking powertrain is dead last of my concern. It's that multi decade interior and exterior that everyone wants to see.

    Whoever strategized the release fumbled it. You got people paying MSRP + for everything and you're holding out?
     
  2. Jun 8, 2021 at 8:30 PM
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    Cpl_Punishment

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    My cousin has similar needs in a work truck. He had problems with the transmission in his Duramax Colorado and replaced it with a Ridgeline.
     
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  3. Jun 8, 2021 at 8:30 PM
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    DrZoidberg

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    Shit, the real Ford Bronco might hit showrooms before the Tundra even shows a spec sheet lol
     
  4. Jun 8, 2021 at 8:36 PM
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    Something like an i3 with REX, Rav4 Prime, Chevy Volt, etc all have programming that will notice infrequent fuel consumption and the engine will run occasionally to keep the fluids moving. Also, they typically have smaller fuel tanks, not just to make room for batteries/electronics, but also to reduce overall fuel storage in case of infrequent ICE use. There's no way Toyota would put a 38g tank on a Tundra Prime. However, for towing range, it'd still need at least a 28g-ish tank, which would still be kind of a concern on a Tundra Prime.

    I wouldn't worry about it too much, my boat sometimes gets put away with 30+ gallons of fuel in the tank, has sat 2 seasons unused, and runs fine. I have a Direct-Injected Mercury outboard, and the sealed fuel system is fairly resistant to fuel quality issues. The fuel tank can get gross, though. If the fuel gets too old, I pump it out and put it in my Nissan Titan. It LOVES old gas!
     
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  5. Jun 8, 2021 at 8:41 PM
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    19crewmaxTRD

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    The Colorado/Canyon is the only small truck that I considered other than a Tacoma/ Tundra all the half tons of other brands have too many known issues. The ranger is too new for me to be comfortable with it especially since it’s a Ford. I didn’t consider the diesel because most of the trips the truck will take are short commutes, and that is hard are new diesel emissions. The 2 gas option have been around awhile and have a pretty good track record so I felt comfortable with getting one instead of a Tacoma, time will tell I guess.
     
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  6. Jun 8, 2021 at 9:47 PM
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    Terndrerrr

    Terndrerrr it's good to get lost once in a while

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    Seems to me that statements like this are pretty much objectively wrong. Check out this independent site: Dashboard Light. They inspect used cars and rate them for long-term reliability.

    301k Fords inspected. Ford's rating: 28/100
    254k Chevrolets inspected. Chevy's rating: 49/100
    55k GMCs inspected. GMC's rating: 49/100
    134k Dodges inspected. Dodge's rating: 36/100
    281k Toyotas inspected. Toyota's rating: 83/100

    If you look at full size trucks only, you'll see that everyone's full size vehicles tend to fare better than their company averages. If you scroll down on each truck's page to the Yearly Defect Ratio and Yearly Quality Index Rating graphs, you'll see that the data is for up to 2017. The site mentions that they pool data for models when they're 3 years old or older. I expect we'll see 2018 data sooner than later.

    Before you accuse that site of being skewed in favor of Toyota, the guys in charge are Volvo fanboys.
     
  7. Jun 8, 2021 at 9:55 PM
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    Facts vs. opinion...I like it!
     
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  8. Jun 9, 2021 at 4:18 AM
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    Hmmm my 21 SR Longbed 4X4 only has 15 miles, you mean its worth more than I paid? All California BS fees included 43K in my driveway. Is that hi low or bout right?
    Longbed 4x4 is hard to find
     
  9. Jun 9, 2021 at 5:20 AM
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  10. Jun 9, 2021 at 5:51 AM
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    Rough Country shocks, ReTrax cover, Summo springs, black out badging, bed extender, "some other things I can't mention"
    I believe Toyota is taking all this crap in and stacking it up against what THEY feel they need to do.
    The result as usual is the great divide. Someone there will bring a level of calmness and understanding to it all and fire their PR department.
     
  11. Jun 9, 2021 at 5:57 AM
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    Undercoating
    Just go sit in a 2021 Tundra. Than any other brand. Toyota better wake up with this new 2022 model. For even more depression, go sit in a new Sequoia. You can still hear Killing Me Softly by The Fugees that suv is so out of date.
     
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  12. Jun 9, 2021 at 6:03 AM
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    I did. That is why I bought a '21 Tundra.
     
  13. Jun 9, 2021 at 6:06 AM
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    I really like the current version. I'm also excited about the 4th gen, whatever that may be. I will have one. I'll have a 5th, 6th, etc gen as well. I enjoy not being in repair facilities. :broccoli:
     
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  14. Jun 9, 2021 at 6:19 AM
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    If those are facts. It's not too hard to believe Toyota is more reliable but Ford below Chevy ... and DODGE? Nah, some manipulation/bias going on there big time.
     
  15. Jun 9, 2021 at 6:25 AM
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  16. Jun 9, 2021 at 6:26 AM
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    Kung

    Kung Not so FNG

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    I have; I sat in a 2020 F150, 2020 GMC, and then a Tundra. A bit more spartan, to be sure, but honestly, they all felt (to me) like they were trying too hard to 'overplush' their interiors. I *wanted* mine to be a bit more spartan.
     
  17. Jun 9, 2021 at 6:35 AM
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    Doofus

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    I believe Toyotas are more reliable. I also believe other car brands are unfairly painted as rattle trap Yugos. Toyotas are imperfect as evidenced by numerous posts on this website. Other brands are generally more imperfect.

    As for Dashboard Light, they have serious sample size issues for at least some models. For instance, without running the calculation, I would suspect their sample of 63,764 F series trucks from 1992-2019 is too small to represent the millions upon millions of trucks Ford produced during that time. Maybe I’m wrong.

    Granted, we could pick apart the methods of any of these quality score sites. Just pointing out a potentially serious statistical flaw in this one.

    Even if one were to trust Dashboard Light’s sample size sufficiency, 2015-2019 model year Ford F-series scored a 92.2 (exceptional) and the 2007-2015 Tundra scored a 97 (exceptional). A difference, certainly, and other websites will show other results.

    However, to the extent Dashboard Light has employed proper methods, this relatively small discrepancy supports my proposition that there isn’t as much of a difference between Toyota and other brands as this board would lead us to believe.

    *Disclaimer: I only looked at Tundra v. F-series. Other comparisons will be different.
     
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  18. Jun 9, 2021 at 6:35 AM
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    I will say being some that has been shopping for 3 months that I have sat and driven everything. And although the Tundra's interior is dated, it's pretty solid. The brand new F150 Lariat I drove yesterday, the door panel rattled, the fuel door was misaligned and it had a large dent on the corner of the rear cab by the window, right on the corner where it goes from the back to the side.
     
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  19. Jun 9, 2021 at 6:42 AM
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    You're looking at two completely different data sets, though. Dashboard Light measures 'catastrophic' failure, i.e. engine failure, transmission failure, etc. I wouldn't consider 2015-2019 model-year as being anywhere near old enough to be able to judge how long engines and transmissions will last. A 2007 Tundra however? Yeah, that's old enough to have enough use that you'll get a good idea how reliable it will be.
     
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  20. Jun 9, 2021 at 6:45 AM
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  21. Jun 9, 2021 at 6:46 AM
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    Fair enough. I might also argue the Tundra has an unfair quality advantage in that comparison given the number of years they have produced essentially the same vehicle.

    There are lots of hairs to split and nits to pick.
     
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  22. Jun 9, 2021 at 6:59 AM
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    If that were the only factor, the previous gen Dodge should have better reliability, shouldn't it?
     
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  23. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:00 AM
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    The thread is heading towards the thought that Toyota won’t release any info so the new tundra must be worse than competitors. What happened to no news is good news?

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    Depends on the trim level on each model. Ford, GM, and Ram all make spartan type base models. Just Toyota currently is living off of past feelings. Other brands have not given up on bringing in new buyers. 2022 will change this marketing for the Tundra.
    This reminds me of some friends that thought the Fox body Mustang was the best model ever and Ford was going to destroy the Mustang. Well, they bought those Fox body Mustangs and ate there own words a couple years later.
     
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  26. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:13 AM
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    Or the fact that Toyota is following there leaked schedule that they laid out. Shouldn't that show a well run company? I understand people who do not like the fact that Toyota has a longer production time on there trucks then the competitors, but to me that just shows that they also put more time & money into the design of each generation then there competitors. The fact is Toyota has a plan and schedule for the next gen tundra and they are following it shouldn't cause concern. I'd personally rather have the truck debut one month and available two months later, then Fords strategy debut one month and available in a year and a half (Bronco).
     
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  27. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:17 AM
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  28. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:18 AM
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    I don't care about production times. I. Need. 2022. Details. And I need em right meow. My itch for a truck is growing, the more i have to drive my CRV the closer I am to pulling the trigger and not waiting for 2022.
     
  29. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:19 AM
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  30. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:21 AM
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    "Full details about the next Tundra are going to be disclosed in September, ahead of a production start planned for November. Toyota dealers will have the all-new, body-on-frame large truck before the end of 2021."

    If this is true, this would be my most ideal situation as I could ride out my lease end to January and sell it right before the lease end.
     
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