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2022 Tundra

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by 0.S.T., Apr 6, 2020.

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Who has actually used the front tow hooks?

  1. Never

    204 vote(s)
    52.6%
  2. 1-5 times

    111 vote(s)
    28.6%
  3. More than 5 times

    45 vote(s)
    11.6%
  4. Almost daily

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  5. I'm an off-roader and definitely need it.

    28 vote(s)
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  6. I mall crawl

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  1. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:00 AM
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    timsp8

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    The thread is heading towards the thought that Toyota won’t release any info so the new tundra must be worse than competitors. What happened to no news is good news?

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    Undercoating
    Depends on the trim level on each model. Ford, GM, and Ram all make spartan type base models. Just Toyota currently is living off of past feelings. Other brands have not given up on bringing in new buyers. 2022 will change this marketing for the Tundra.
    This reminds me of some friends that thought the Fox body Mustang was the best model ever and Ford was going to destroy the Mustang. Well, they bought those Fox body Mustangs and ate there own words a couple years later.
     
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  4. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:13 AM
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    Or the fact that Toyota is following there leaked schedule that they laid out. Shouldn't that show a well run company? I understand people who do not like the fact that Toyota has a longer production time on there trucks then the competitors, but to me that just shows that they also put more time & money into the design of each generation then there competitors. The fact is Toyota has a plan and schedule for the next gen tundra and they are following it shouldn't cause concern. I'd personally rather have the truck debut one month and available two months later, then Fords strategy debut one month and available in a year and a half (Bronco).
     
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  6. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:18 AM
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    I don't care about production times. I. Need. 2022. Details. And I need em right meow. My itch for a truck is growing, the more i have to drive my CRV the closer I am to pulling the trigger and not waiting for 2022.
     
  7. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:19 AM
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  8. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:21 AM
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    "Full details about the next Tundra are going to be disclosed in September, ahead of a production start planned for November. Toyota dealers will have the all-new, body-on-frame large truck before the end of 2021."

    If this is true, this would be my most ideal situation as I could ride out my lease end to January and sell it right before the lease end.
     
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  9. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:23 AM
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    I call BS on other trucks having nicer interiors than the Tundra. At least, trim for trim, price for price. You gotta compare apples to apples. You can't look at a Ram Laramie Longhorn and compare it to a Tundra, because a Ram Laramie Longhorn is $20k more expensive than a Tundra Platinum 1794. Toyota doesn't have an answer to the uber-expensive luxury truck. You gotta compare the Tundra to the lower priced trims that compete in price with the Tundra. For example, my Tundra SR5 TRD Off-Road is priced similarly to a Ram BigHorn with a few options. Actually, dollar for dollar, my truck is better equipped than a Big Horn - you pay MORE for the RAM to get a Big Horn with a sunroof, Hemi, 4x4, radar cruise, etc. And the interior materials of a Big Horn Ram aren't that far off of what Toyota is putting in the Tundra. The Big Horn certainly doesn't have the ultra-lux materials that are put into the Laramie that you see in all the Youtube Reviews, and which are the basis for all the compliments of Ram's 'awesome new interior'. There's a lot of plastic in a Big Horn, just like there's a lot of plastic in a Tundra SR5.

    Where Toyota is lacking is the option of an ultra high end luxo truck to compete with the Ram Laramies or the F-150 Platinums. But come on, you gotta compare apples to apples. Stop comparing mid-trim level priced Tundras to top-trim, hyper expensive domestic trucks. They're not the same thing.
     
  10. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:26 AM
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    I agree and I am not buying a new truck anytime soon. But it’s a big purchase and some people take a lot of time and do research before buying. If they are releasing info in sep for a dec ship date, they will probably loose some customers.

    I also realize the tundra isn’t Toyota’s big seller. I think they went all out with the commercials in 07, but that didn’t get them any more market share. At this point the tundra is just there. It doesn’t seem to even be in most of their marketing now.
     
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    For a product that isn't their biggest seller and biggest focus, they sure did it pretty damn well and make one hell of a truck.

    As opposed to Nissan who is similar with their Titan but theirs you can tell it's no the main focus.
     
  12. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:34 AM
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    True, but Ford lost a Bronco customer in me because production took to long. Wife loved it but was tired of waiting, ended up with a new JLU Rubicon in the garage.
     
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  13. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:39 AM
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    Not sure what kind of math you're doing but the 5.0 is closer to the 5.7 than 3.5 by a margin.
     
  14. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:51 AM
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    Alot of them
  15. Jun 9, 2021 at 7:59 AM
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    Ah that makes more sense lol. Honestly the Santa Cruz idea was a good one, but the execution was kinda poor. I like the design minus the front end (I'm a boxy look fan). And the interior is really cramped. TruckKing did a video and he's 6'1 and it was pretty bad rear space.
     
  17. Jun 9, 2021 at 8:02 AM
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    I believe what he’s saying is the 5.0 is only 1.5L bigger and the 5.7 is 2.2L bigger than a 3.5 .
     
  18. Jun 9, 2021 at 8:05 AM
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    I have to say from first hand experience the Ford interiors are a little nicer. My 2012 F150 XLT had more comfortable seats and less interior rattles than my current 2021 SR5. It doesn't bother me that much because I bought the Tundra for the long term powertrain longevity or at least I'm hoping because at 6 months old my Tundras interior hasn't won me over. LOL
     
  19. Jun 9, 2021 at 8:07 AM
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    Rough Country shocks, ReTrax cover, Summo springs, black out badging, bed extender, "some other things I can't mention"
    Well, if quality of product is 1st and foremost the most important aspect and I believe no one can argue against that, maybe the rest of the truck manufacturers should slow down trying to out do each other and focus on getting their product S$@# together.
     
  20. Jun 9, 2021 at 8:12 AM
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    nobodyintexas

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    Whatever this forum told me to do
    we just bought a f250 XL Crewcab 4x4 6.2 gas. 4/6/21

    it was purchased as an active company work truck

    it's been in the shop for 11 days.

    it won't turn off. probably not indicitive of all F250's, but damn.
     
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    Rough Country shocks, ReTrax cover, Summo springs, black out badging, bed extender, "some other things I can't mention"
    No interior should win anyone over if they are buying a truck to do truck things. Real people who buy a truck to do the things trucks need to do, do not place interior comfy-ness as a top priority.
    If you want one to be a grocery getter, fine it's your money and you buy what you want but a truck purchase that has focus on being a tow- er hauler working vehicle places things like creature comforts below the mechanical capabilities trucks are designed for.
     
  22. Jun 9, 2021 at 8:13 AM
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    So, Volvo fanboys have a bias against Ford trucks? Are they mad that Ford owned Volvo for a decade or mad that they sold it? :monocle:
    PS: Volvo's overall rating: 31/100.

    These days I steer clear of Ford and Dodge/Ram, but just look at the amount of recalls and class action lawsuits Ford is dealing with. They have well-documented issues and pissed off customers across the board. But DL deals only with powertrain issues.

    It sounds like you're saying that the picture shown by their data goes against your preconceived notions, so it must be biased.

    Check out this easy Sample Size Calculator.
    Ford has produced 20.8M F-series trucks 1992-2019. Source
    Thus, the population of F-series trucks '92-'19 is 20,800,000.
    For a population of 20.8M, inspecting a sample size of 63,000 of them for powertrain defects with a confidence level of 99% gives a margin of error of 0.51%. (that's half of one percent).

    Conversely, for a 99% confident survey in a population of 20.8M units with a MOE of 1%, one only needs a survey (inspection) size of 16,628.

    TL;DR– A sample size of 63k trucks is BEYOND adequate to give an accurate picture with an extremely high confidence level and extremely small margin of error.

    Take any vehicle from 2015-2019. I doubt you're going to find many powertrain issues (again, electrical problems, leaky rear windows, frame issues, etc are ignored) with any vehicles that are only that old. Look at just about any model on that site. Newer models rate higher. That's the thing with long term reliability...the whole picture doesn't come into focus in the first few years. This is why the deep dive of data is shown for 2017 and older model years below on each model's page.
     
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    Domestics seem to use there customers as an arm of there R&D department, just look at Ford and there direct injection roll out. They swap all there new engines to DI have carbon build issues within a few years and then immediately introduce dual injection (copying Toyota). Where as Toyota discovered the issue designed a solution (dual injection) before ever bringing it to market.
     
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    Rough Country shocks, ReTrax cover, Summo springs, black out badging, bed extender, "some other things I can't mention"
    And, we all know the "quality" of "emotional auto ownership" can be questionable based on a simple fact that many will live with problems and tell themselves "it's OK" just because of brand loyalty.
    So when I see things like power train issues being super low, I have to laugh because in this town, at the Ford dealership I have friends. Those friends tell me and I see how many older Fords are in there with trans problems, engine problems among others.
    Even new Fords are lined up in there for some issue.
    Small sample size?, yes but, very accurate unbiased sample size I see and that percentage is way worse than shown.
    So, take polls and sample size historical data with a grain of salt as many are tainted by lots of variables.
     
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    Agreed on that! I have friends that are so loyal to brands its like a sick obsession. They can not see the good in other brands.
     
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    Sorry to hear man....
     
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    Anyone think dealers will be marking up the 2022 Toyota Tundra?
     
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    Rough Country shocks, ReTrax cover, Summo springs, black out badging, bed extender, "some other things I can't mention"
    Does a bear shit in the wood?
     
  29. Jun 9, 2021 at 8:34 AM
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    Always had the minis and 4runners but when I went to fullsize in the 90's my Z/71 ate transmissions every 35K WITHOUT towing and used more oil than gas
    My F250 started having weird ignition problems and steering box problems. I and now the kids are still beating the snot out of our 2000 Tundra Ltd 4x4Picture 204.jpg
     
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    It honestly hadn't crossed my mind. I'm already assuming that it's going to be a higher MSRP let alone a markup. I'll be priced out if that's the case.
     
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