2022 Tundra

My office neighbor has used Fords as fleet vehicles for a decade. owns at least a half dozen at any given time. Always buys the latest/greatest for his own vehicle as he's a tech junkie and Ford certainly markets to such folks. He bought an explorer this past year. 6 mos later it was gone and he was calling it the 'exploder'. said it was just constant problems.

 

Berettafan, Are you crazy? You can’t talk Ill of Ford, unless you want a face punch from LT75, since that’s what you get for acknowledging Fords Issues on this Tundra Forum..... Just forewarning.

 

Anyhow,JwJeffery907....
Do you feel a 6cyl Twin Turbo would be worst as a daily driver than the v8 that’s about 12mpg in the city?
I think that is the actual point of why Toyota is doing what they are doing with dropping the v8

 

Don't the Highlanders have pretty decent tech?

 

Well......... Being somewhat considerate of fuel economy I was around 13mpg city and had to run twin turbo V6 which also requires premium fuel while towing. So I'd say I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze.

 

My wife has a 2020 Expedition with the 3.5 TT and the 10 speed. If I could trade my 2021 Tundra powertrain for hers, I would in a heartbeat.

 

There is Ford bashing here. Ford makes it kinda easy for a group that values simple, proven tech and long-term reliability. I think their older trucks are great, but I would never trust their newer trucks.

And to be clear, @LT75 said the punch would be for calling someone "f-ing real dumb" to their face, NOT for "acknowledging Ford's issues".

 

Obviously- An Acronym of F.O.R.D on a forum is not actually calling someone Fn Dumb to there face.... So there is a bit of a difference there.

 

I drive the same setup at work in an F150 and feel like the transmission is constantly shifting and hate the auto start stop feature.

 

2021 Tundra is looking better and better

 

Let's all remember that whatever engine and transmission they go with, top reasoning will be for the CAFE standard like all the other manufacturers.

 

Cafe standard?

Um,cruising around with coffee ?

 

In the years 2021 to 2030, the standards requires MPG to be the "maximum feasible" fuel economy. ... Additionally, each manufacturer must meet a minimum standard of the higher of either 27.5 mpg for passenger automobiles or 92% of the projected average for all manufacturers.

 

Ah

 

Atleast you didn't say my goto acronym....For Only Ret@#$ed Drivers.

An the Ford bashing is just fun. So is bashing all the others, including Toyota, which is far from perfect.

 

Do you have experience with them? We have a fleet of well over 400 vehicles and aren’t having much issues out of the explorers. Of course the the rams, chargers and silverado’s make up the rest so comparatively that may not be very good lol but either way we have multiple explorers and they are decent.

I never said the Explorer was better or more reliable but that its a good vehicle and that’s from my experience as someone that is in one for the better part of 12 hours a day for at least 14 days a month.

Toyota has been lagging behind the competition for a while. They may bring it with the new Tundra but as conservative as they can be I just don’t know. We shall see, I’m only saying the only things that would pull me away from my 2013 Rock Warrior would be the new Tundra or the Explorer ST not the regular Explorer.

 

Thank you for what you do! I know it's very rough out there for you guys these days and we all appreciate you more than you may know. With that said isn't the Explorer you ride around in over built compared to the normal consumer Explorers?

 

Um Are sure bashing other trucks is ok?

 

Decent tech relative to Toyota standards, yes they do. Relative to modern current gen domestics, no.

When we got my wife her 2020 4R Pro we also looked at the Highlander. Mind you I was trading in my 2014 Jeep SRT, so it was a very different vehicle, but the Highlander felt MASSIVELY vanilla and sterile.

To be fair, I haven’t spent any time in a 2020+ Explorer other than my buddy’s ST. But with a respectable 0-60 of 5.2 seconds, heated / cooled massage seats, tons of drive modes, killer stock stereo, etc it is a very well executed vehicle that drives smooth and precise. Highlander felt like a smaller minivan in comparison to my SRT and my buddy’s ST.

For the new Tundra, I would be happy with an interior on par with the Highlander. But would love to have something on par with the domestic offerings, with Toyota reliability, and would have no problem paying a premium for it.

 

Wally says it ok.... so

 

Meh, it is all subjective. Compare the Explorer to the Highlander or 4Runner, or Jeep Grand Cherokee and then come back. The Explorer is Nicely designed but just a terrible drive. The Highlander is boring, but at least enjoyable. Toyota has always been boring (conservative) by comparison, with few exceptions. Not Ford Bashing by any means, I compared the M2/Supra/Camaro/Challenger H2H last year and happily bought a Mustang Bullitt Edition. Also bought an 8 year bumper to bumper warranty because, well you know ;-)

 

yawnnnnnnnnn! Waiting for them 22s is like waiting for a full eclipse. Cheers!

 

Time flys, before ya know it/ it will be old news

 

My 95 f250 7.3 is probably gonna outlast my tundra....

 

I had a '99 and a 2001. Should have never gotten rid of that 2001

 

I may talk the s%#t , yet the 7.3 is a tank. Worked for years and years using a 350 anda 550 with 7.3- They are awesome work horses with plenty of Gallup , Thirsty tho

 

Ps 7.3 is something.....
Not sure it would outlast the 07 ,4.7 Tun I have , yet it would go some distance for sure

 

I would rather just pay a gas guzzler tax. I did on my last vehicle purchase, and give not one single fuck about it.

Interestingly that LS3 in the SS was rated for 21MPG highway. I can tell you for a fact it will get 21MPG highway. You do have to set the cruise control for 90-95mph to achieve that 21MPG though, if you are tragically forced to slow down and drive 70-80mph the car lopes along and gets 24.0-24.5MPG. Not too bad for a decent sized 4 door with 415hp.

 

There are some heavy duty components like brakes, suspension and alternator, but for the most part they are a basic fleet vehicle. There are different options like a twin turbo v6, armored panels, etc. but I can’t really speak on them, we just run the standard versions. The only exception being the handful of hybrids they decided to try for fuel efficiency purposes.

 

How’s the twin turbo v6?