2022 Tundra

It's just funny that he called me a troll. I thought he was trolling with this statement:

COTJ's Tundra engineer friend said they have seen failed trucks due to high temps. @327Tundra's transmission actually failed and was replaced under warranty. Is there 100% proof it was due to lack of an external cooler? No, but the fact that the fluid was all black and smelled burnt means it certainly wasn't running within temp specs, especially if that fluid is supposed to be able to handle 300ºF. Plus, he kinda left us hangin...

I'll admit that I find it very hard to not speak up when something is said that is untrue on its face. I am often that "aCtUaLlY..." guy. But calling me a troll for pointing out an incorrect statement? Kind of a head-scratcher, to be honest.

 

In context I took his quote:

To be stating that as a service tech himself, he, and the techs he works with have not had any issues with the 19-21 transmissions. It seems like a completely reasonable statement to me, seeing as a vast majority of 19-21 Tundra owners have had no issues with their transmissions.

 

That’s certainly fair. But, if you back up further to this post where it started, the context is wider than his local dealership:

I took this as him saying other forum members are lying when they bringing up that there are documented issues with the 19-21 transmissions (granted, very few at this point!). And he’s using his experience as a local tech who hasn’t personally seen any issues to dismiss these issues as forum chatter.

 

Another Toyota master tech's view on the transmission. Start viewing at 14:00 if you don't want to watch the whole video.

https://youtu.be/l2OAHImTgA8

Thanks to @Green Thunder for the video.

 

Good video.

 

Always good to hear from as many techs as possible. You guys see way more than we will here on the forum - and I'm way more inclined to have their opinion hold weight (like the Ford tech who says he would never buy an Ecoboost - check it out on Youtube).

If this was FCA doing it, I'd be very skeptical as I don't trust their engineers (see the Gen 3 Hemi design that limits oil flow to the cam), but being that it's Toyota I have a lot more faith in the engineers. And if they say that within reasonable manufacturing limits there won't be issues (of course there's going to be some issues, there's way too many moving parts to not be) then I will side with them until proven wrong.

 

Thanks. I came across that video a few days ago. What's funny to me is when he says, "they didn't just remove it to save a few pennies."

But according to COTJ's Tundra engineer friend, that's exactly what drove the decision, so

I installed a cooler with an OEM thermostat and hard lines. I want it to run and cool just like a 2018.

 

Not sure if this was posted yet but there was a leak of some of the specs of the upcoming 300 Series Land Cruiser that won't be coming to the United States. However, it will share the twin turbo V6 with the Tundra along with the 10 speed transmission. Not sure if the 3.3L turbodiesel will make it to the Tundra but one can hope!!

"Like past Cruisers, there will be two engine types, gasoline and diesel, according to the leaked information posted to Kakaku and digested by Creative311. Base models start with a twin-turbo 3.5-liter V6 derived from the Lexus LS500, putting out 420 horsepower and 434 lb-ft. A three-row interior with 60/40 rear seat split comes standard, along with manual seat adjustment, full LED headlights, and 18-inch wheels. A rear locking differential can be had as an option.

The second out of five trim levels adds power seats, a sunroof, and a 40/20/40 rear seat split to help with loading long items. The mid-grade contains everything the previous two have, plus ventilated front seats, bright-finish 18-inchers, and a wood-grain steering wheel. A kick sensor for the rear tailgate and remote sunroof are optional.

On the next level up, a 3.3-liter turbodiesel V6 generating 309 horsepower and 507 lb-ft of torque becomes available. Both engines are mated to a 10-speed automatic. Getting in to the deluxe features we've come to know in U.S.-market Land Cruisers, these come equipped with 20-inch alloys, rear ventilated seats and sequential turn signals. An optional 12-inch touchscreen replaces the 9- or 10-inch systems on lesser trims. Most important, Toyota's VDIM vehicle dynamics management software and an active stabilizer suspension system should give a very comfortable ride."

https://www.autoblog.com/2021/04/13/toyota-land-cruiser-300-series-details-leaked/

 

I highly doubt the Tundra gets a diesel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl6sKmu6_TI

Watch that and you'll see why, diesels have been killed by EPA requirements and have such a tiny window for them to work well. The poor design of the Titan Cummins leads to failures stranding people, but the caking of soot is found in all of them. Diesels are suited for heavy hauling, outside that they're not worth the ticking time bomb that they are.

 

Did they really have to specify manual seats? What's the alternative, airplane seats?

It's too bad the diesel will only be in the upper trim levels.

 

Let’s just twin turbo our current 5.7s and be done with it. Forget the new 2022 unit haha

 

Looks like the Tundra is going to coil springs in the rear. Also the exhaust runs along the left side and the fuel tank is now mounted on the right.

https://youtu.be/ppI-TB5nuHs

 

I wonder if it has to do with the 3rd row automatically folding out of the way.

Or... My wife’s 2012 Yukon XL has position memory up front and an automatically folding seat on the passenger side of the middle row (for access to the 3rd row). Maybe it refers to one of those two things.

 

I figured it was just them saying manual seats on the base trim, power seats on the next trim up. It was just funny that they specified since that would be the assumption. They didn't specify things like power locks or windows since those are a given these days.

 

Post #3030 has pictures underneath so you don’t have to watch a video.

 

Ah, I thought I had made a discovery.

Sorry for the double post.

 

I get that but there would be less Tundras around there then in the States . I don’t have the sales figures in front of me though .

 

There's a decent amount of Tundra's on that stretch - I've been working on it for the last year. Tons of Rams but that's due to Marathon having a tiny Ram dealer, other than that it's pretty equal split between Tundra/F150/GM twins. Not to mention all the cross country travelers in the summer - that stretch of Hwy 17 may be nasty but I still maintain it's a stretch every person should drive once for the views. It's an area that if failures would happen I would not be surprised it happens there, it's a far tougher stretch than going through the Rocky Mountains on 1 or 16. So while there may not be as many total Tundras there the toughness of it would still have me to expect him to see or hear of a transmission problem if they're happening more than you'd expect for a mechanical machine.

 

did that drive once, and never again. Views of Lake Superior are unreal.

 

Saw that. Pretty weak if true. A used Tundra with a supercharger will probably be cheaper and have more power.

 

Personally I don't have any issues with those numbers at all. Current Tundra has 387 and 401 and I've never felt it was lacking for power at all. To me those numbers are more than enough for a 1/2 ton truck. Especially if it can get those numbers and pump out low to mid 20's on the mpgs.

 

I’m sure it’s going to be better than the outgoing model sans SC. I was just hoping they would really knock it out if the park. Based on this they are just barely staying competitive. Hopefully they can deliver on MPG.

 

I'd hold on about saying anything about the power estimates until details about a hybrid are put out. The F150 hybrid provides a very noticeable boost and have to figure Toyota can do much better.

 

I'd like the new Tundra to A) have a hybrid option, and B), have a generator option, just like Ford's Pro-Power that's available on the PowerBoost.

I think it's a GREAT feature. I currently have no intentions of upgrading my truck, but IF Toyota offers a hybrid with some sort of generator option, I could probably be swayed to trade up in a few years time. I can think of a few uses I'd have for an onboard generator like Ford's Pro-Power, a big one being boondock camping. Being able to run AC all night long at a non-powered site would be fantastic.

I gotta give Ford credit for being innovative here. If it wasn't for their terrible quality, I'd consider jumping over to a Ford PowerBoost. As it is, I'm going to wait and hope that Toyota implements something similar.

 

The ttv6 puts out plenty of power. But, the numbers everyone keeps quoting is from the LS500. A car engine, tuned and cammed for a car, that requires premium fuel.
From what we've seen the tundra will(hopefully)not require premium fuel. That already requires a different tune that will bring down its numbers roughly 5-10%. Imagine all this hype of a world beater that makes less power than the 5.7. If they leave it as is and require premium fuel with the way gas prices are trending, they won't sell worth a flip.

I would certainly hope and expect they have a tundra/lc version cammed and tuned for a truck running on regular grade gas that will bring more torque to the table.

 

I like the customizability of the F-150 but that is also a killer for any kind of manufacturing. From a manufacturing base it has so many variants, so many options, it is no wonder they have little problems constantly pop up. I'd be more inclined to stick with maybe 1-2 powertrains, minimal options. Honestly, I like the small option pallete, I just wish they would open up the color choice more.

 

Unfortunately the days of the large ICE are over. Smaller engines are here to stay mostly for political reasons and there is huge pressure to kill the ICE entirely. (The latter won't happen unless we increase use of Nuclear energy.)

Anyway I think the 3.5L TT would be pretty good. My wife's volvo has a 2L with supercharger and turbo, it's rather "sprited"! You can buy a factory tune for it and obtain 330HP and 325 ft lb. I could see the 3.5L easily beating the old V8 at least on paper. Saved weight will mean more payload and better fuel economy - all Tundra drivers know we could use more of both.

 

Good idea, that's the powerplant Toyota should use for the Tundra-based Raptor/TRX killer

 

Did we go an entire day without a post in this thread or did our Savior return and I’m the only one left?