2022 Tundra spotted towing

Reading this seems as if you go above 8500lbs gvwr you meet the except standard that no longer classifies it as an automobile.

 

If 22’ tundra has a little more impressive payload i may consider it!

give me a close to 2k, tougher rear
End, how is
The titan hd
And the old 1500Hd classified? They have epa rating?

 

I'm not sure that the TTV6 will weigh less than the 5.7 engine. It has larger displacement but it's still all aluminum. The TTV6 will also have two turbo chargers and intercoolers and associated piping to add weight.

Quick google tells me that for Ford the 3.5 ecoboost weighs 449 lbs, the 5.0 V8 444 lbs and Tundra 5.7 489 lbs. so not a lot of weight saved there

 

Darn maybe aluminum body panels too?

 

The old 1500hd were epa rated even though the gvwr was 8600lbs I believe the rules changed since then, but the titan XD is not epa rated as its gvwr is between 8600-8900lbs

 

Could be but I'm hoping it's lighter to help out the payload. What does the 3.5 in the Tacoma weight? Maybe add 50lbs to that for the TTs and hardware. What does the 5.7 weight?

 

Toyota Tundra with Titans xd payload I will fckn buy!

 

The 5.7 is the 3UR-FE. In the Tundra it has a dry weight of 489 lbs.
The Tacoma runs a variation of the GR V6 engine with atkinson cycle available, won't be used in the Tundra.
The 3.5 TT V6 is a new engine the V35A-FTS. It's part of the new Dynamic Force family Toyota is making. It's what's in the new Lexus LS500 and is the next generation of engines for Toyota/Lexus. All the current I4 engines for Toyota/Lexus are Dynamic Force engines.
I haven't been able to Google any dry weights on the engine though. Like my earlier post said guessing by what Ford does with a similar 3.5 TT V6 engine I'd imagine it weighs somewhere around 450 lbs. So that's 40 lbs less than current 5.7 V8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Dynamic_Force_engine

 

Yes but your assuming they are using the V35A-FTS. How do we know they aren't going to use the 2GR-FKS. The 2GR-FKS only has a weight of 384lbs. When the engine first came out the had a cut away display model of the 2GR-FKS at the Toyota training centre. When I was talking to the instructor about the motor he ask me what was missing from the motor. The exhaust manifolds. Also mentioned the the design of the heads with one large exhaust port would allow easy bolt on turbos. Since the Tundra and Tacoma are being built in the same factory and the two truck are going to be made on the same platform (same frame) I can only assume the 2GR-FKS engine will be used in the Tundra with a couple of turbos installed. So we have some weight saving of let's say around 70lbs. I'm sure other weight saving measures will be used in the new truck thereby increasing payload.

 

Look at the newly redesigned Hilux and then the tundra renditions from the new leaks. Should pretty much tell you how its gonna look. I'd look at the design ques for the interior also since the Tacoma and tundra will share the same platform and the Hilux is basically a Tacoma.

Disappointed so far with what I am seeing.

 

I have a hard time believing that Toyota would put another GR engine into the Tundra. The Tundra originally came with the 1GR-FE 4.0 V6 version of that engine. The current 3UR-FE engine (5.7) is in the same family as the 1UR-FE which is the 4.6 V8 that was originally in the LS460. Now that Lexus has replaced the UR family with the TTV5 V35A-FTS in the LS series it stands to reason that a variation of that engine will be what replaces the current 5.7 V8 engine in other Lexus/Toyota vehicles. It was designed as V8 replacement and it will allow Toyota/Lexus to spread out the development cost among more vehicles.

 

Don’t mistake the same platform as being the same dimensions. Ford and GM have done that before between mid and full size sedans and you’ll never know that they were built side by side .

 

I love that Nissan bumped the XD gvwr 50lbs over 8,600 to avoid all the epa garbage

 

It all comes down to cost. Tacoma being built along side the Tundra and the 2GR-FKS is being used in othe models. Its Toyota's go to V6 motor and it's ready to have the TT bolted on. Why bring in a different motor when the 2GR-FKS is already there and ready to go. Toyota is cost cutting g tryo g to use as many similar components as possible. Who would have thought the Tundra and Tacoma would be built on the same platform.

 

Yes, but the V35A-FTS has already been developed and implemented in the Lexus LS500. Best way for Toyota to recoup the R&D cost of that motor is to put it into a more mainstream vehicle like the Tundra/Sequoia. Kinda like how GM develops their LS and now LT V8 engines for the Corvette, then recoups the cost by putting them into Trucks and Tahoes/Silverados. It costs a lot of $$ to develop a new motor, the more vehicles you can sell with it the quicker you can get a return on your investment.

 

Same architecture is not the same frame.

The chassis will share some parts but it is not identical chassis, like Doxiedad said, the 2GR will not make it into Tundra, the V35 (and its updated designation) is the main focus, 2GR was never set up with hybrid architecture in mind, where 8GR was, but 8GR and V35 has more in common than 2GR and 8GR.

 

At this point it's all speculation and nobody knows what motor the truck will up with. Hell, we dont even know what rear suspension it will have.

 

Finally a voice of reason states the obvious: We don’t know.

 

True but based off of whats available via leaks its underwhelming

 

The truck hasn't even been seen and with just rumours (leaks) people already have a dislike for it.

 

I'd say the writing is on the wall at this point with the information leaked from dealers and others. I agree though that suspension is still a mystery.

 

The dealers knows squat. I'm friend with the dealer principle and worked for him as a dealer tech before retiring a couple of months ago. He had a dealer meeting and the new Tundra was going to be discussed. I asked him to take notes and pictures. Not a chance. The info was next to nothing and anything he did know there was no way he was going to reveal anything.

 

Your reply confuses me. "Not a chance" to take notes and pics right? Also your saying the information was scarce and whatever he knew he wouldn't share with the public?

1st. That was his experience. Others may have had different ones with more detail.
2nd. Those are his morals (choosing not to share info).
3rd. Major outlets like TFL have good sources. Also "That Tundra Dude" on YouTube even received a strike and had to remove information off of YouTube for revealing this info too early. Per one of his videos, to ensure a second strike didnt happen he spoke to Toyota before sharing the leaked commercial video.

To me thats decent proof that what we have been seeing is close to accurate. But that's just me.

 

There are major repercussions for a dealer to release product information before Toyota corporate gives the OK.

 

That makes sense.

 

The difference is the 2013 ford had people modifying their trucks to prevent issues which should've been done from the factory, I believe one of them had to do with draining condensation somewhere in the engine bay which was not done from factory. I like to think that Toyota tries pretty hard to make sure there's no issues with the vehicle compared to other competitors. Diesel would be great but toyota doesn't want to mess with garbage DEF systems. Ram air suspension commonly fails prematurely and leaves a gaping hole in the owners wallet, in reality where toyota needs to build is towing as you said. The towing numbers on the tundra is an actual joke compared to an ECOboost. I don't think anyone wants a 4 cyl in a fullsize truck, I'm fine with a toyota V6 but a 4 banger is really unrealistic from a sales perspective unless it is for a fleet lineup.

 

That's definitely longer than the current 5.5' CM bed.

 

Just out of curiosity isn’t that what the owners of “second gen” Tundras are doing with the AIPs ? The air suspension is a problem for people living in colder climates , however nobody has reported any issues with the 5th gen yet .

 

What I really want to know about is the remote start. If that truck shuts off when you open the door, I’m going to show a disapproving look. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that. Just sayin.

 

I don’t live in a cold climate but I haven’t had any issues, my issues were related to transmission maintenance only complaint is the valve body sleeves should be steel to increase longevity. Although as I said you only have that issue because of lack of maintenance or improper use or extremely high mileage