2022 Owners: Do you miss the v8?

needing premium fuel would add a good amount of operational expense around here thats for sure, they really rape you around here for it

but alas, got to pay to play, I get it.

I would just stay stock, I guess Im getting old, lol.

 

1.Good points, but Keith adds the resonators to remove the drone from the race system and builds the mufflers to produce the level of sound wanted by the owners. Not sure why you think everyone with a great exhaust is a douchebag. Maybe that is the crew you hang with?
2. Not sure how you think buying a new truck then tuning it is cheaper than keeping the v8 and adding headers and an exhaust for 4k. Then again, numbers can be tricky.
3. I also think douchebag is your all time favorite word.

 

We will see. I for one am using the Tundra as a work truck pulling dump and float trailers daily after years of shitty experience with FORD and Chevy. I want to see a V6 of any kind do what a V8 does over years. If people drive it as a grocery getter than you are right but if you work with them you get fast past the hype and glitter. To each their own. There is a reason why the Tundra switched to a V6, not cause people use it mainly as a work truck. Two turbos and all the gadgets are more parts that can break.

 

Self Serve

I forgot the 2JZ GTE, The Main King of forced induction.

The 4G63 was just behind it, being only 4cylinder

So Toyota knew how to do it, but has instead chosen to sell bmw's and copy everyone else's stupid aluminum engines for forced induction purposes.

 

The New Tundra has decent tow capacity. If your looking to tow Heavy stuff consistently my question is why are you even considering a 1/2 ton. Kinda silly if you ask me. Go buy one of the big 3 for that.

 

Requires minimum 91

 

Reliability and cost. I tow daily, fairly heavy, the V8 does it for me. I have driven Ford and Chevy's before with tons of problems. Had a 2012 TRD for 6 years towing daily and it didn't leave me hanging for a much lower aquiring cost than the other "big" 2 at least. We leave dodge out, no explanation needed, lol

 

the new truck has higher ratings, so Im not understanding the argument its somehow not meant for work? it also has airbags in the rear to self level which would be nice for towing

I don't tow heavy, so it doesnt matter to me, I was just curious on the argument for conversational purposes.

for me anything over about 7-8K is 3/4 ton or more anyways.

 

No, I was referring to your previous comment about the '22 V6TT having more power than the previous V8 engine. Perhaps the V6TT can tow/pull more with the increased torque specs? But apples to apples in performance down the 1/4 mile; they are the same. So your original comment was false.

 

I havent seen a 3rd party actual test of each one documenting that ?

the new one peaks at 2400 rpm with way more torque and having 10 gears will help big time. 479 at 2,400 isnt anything to sneeze at.

my guess is it will preform just fine and much better than the v8 at altitude.

 

Yes, the V6TT peaks sooner at 2400 rpm as you mentioned. V8 peaks at 3600 rpm. Here are some links for you:

BoostAddict - Underwhelming? 2022 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro test - 0-60, curb weight, 1/4 mile, etc.

"What about the 437 horsepower and 583 lb-ft of torque hybrid drivetrain that includes a twin turbo 3.5 liter V6? Well, it results in 0-60 of 5.7 seconds and a 1/4 mile of 14.5 @ 92 miles per hour."

The Quickest Pickup Trucks MotorTrend Has Ever Tested

"The first model year of the second-generation Tundra just beats the Ram, the F-150, and all the newer Tundras we've tested (with the exception of one, stay tuned). The Toyota's 381-hp, 401-lb-ft 5.7-liter V-8, backed by a six-speed automatic, propelled the Tundra to 60 mph in 6 seconds flat and resulted in a 14.7-second quarter mile at 93.9 mph."

Video: 2022 Toyota Tundra - I Get These Real-World 0-60 MPH and Road Trip MPG Numbers - The Fast Lane Truck (tfltruck.com)

"The non-hybrid 3.5-liter TT V6 is rated at 389 horsepower and 479 lb-ft of torque. I did two 0-60 MPH acceleration runs at an elevation of around 1,500 feet above sea level. My best acceleration was 7.02 seconds, according to the SoloDL GPS device."

 

I wonder how long before big turbo upgrades, would be awesome if it works with the hybrid, imagine no boost lag and 700hp.

 

2mpg better for a truck that is anywhere from $12k to $20k more up front is negligible. I mean, I’m sure you like it for other reasons too, but if you’re going to put armor and 35s and a rack on it, the mpg gains just went out the window.

The 2nd gen Tundra sucks on gas compared to a RAV4, but I bet it hangs with the 3rd gen if you build both out.

 

It's tough to compare apples to apples when you don't know the situation. $12k to $20k more? Have you looked at used truck prices right now for CPOs? Try $4k MORE for the older truck. Why? Because people want instant gratification and to drive off the lot that day with a truck. That's the reason I bought the 2022 over a CPO 2021. I SAVED $4,000 just because I was willing to wait 4 weeks for the truck to arrive. I started the entire foray into buying a 2022 Tundra because I called a local dealer who had a 2020 CPO Tundra TRD Off Road with 18k miles on it. They wanted more for it than the MSRP I paid for my 2022 which was brand new with zero miles.

In my mind, I bought a truck that was 2 years newer with 18k fewer miles for $4,000 less that gets better gas milage when I bought my 2022. It's all in the context.

 

There is no way a stock CM 4x4 Tundra can do 0-60 in 6.0 sec. Maaaybe the old regular can short bed in 2007 could do it if you put it 4H and brake torque the launch.

Motortrend says the 21 Tundra does 0-60 in 6.6 sec and Car and Driver says 6.4 sec but even that sounds too fast.

 

This is meaningless but I test drove a 2022 platinum today and I own a 2016 platinum 5.7. The 2022 felt quicker by a decent margin to me , that 10- speed helps.

That said my old girl was hauling 320 lbs of sand in the back to tame the axle hop a bit, and 0 turbo lag

 

Point 2 you are correct. You never save money buying a new truck vs one that you already have that is operational.

However if you are in the market for a new truck, and your goal is to modify said truck for more power (understanding warranty is going out the window) and your choices are a NA V8 or a TTV6, unless you have deep pockets the TTV6 is going be give you more bang for your buck.

 

I would not be surprised if those two rags put the trucks in 4HI and then brake torque the bejesus out of them for a max effort run.

 

Are you sure?

I could have sworn it was aluminum.
Guys were blowing them up left and right back then.

Maybe I am wrong.

Ah yes, it seems it was cast iron after all.

My mistake, it was some time ago.

Still it did not prove to be a very robust design, there seemed to be many in my area broken down back when I was running the streets in my Eclipse.

Maybe it was just to many young hot heads pushing them to hard lol.

 

Agreed! I don’t get any so many people on here don’t care for the V8 sound. I think they are full of it.

 

Welcome to your standard modern person. No appreciation for the good stuff in life, only appreciation for the latest tech and trend. They love to be antithetical to anything the “boomers” enjoy. I should have been born 20 years earlier!

 

Yo it’s fact that the new Tundra is faster. I know the V8 feels quicker off the line but that’s just the effect of the torque converter stalling. The sustained acceleration G of the V6 is higher than the V8 for sure.

This V6 is better than the V8. Now, a SC or TT V8 would be the best…

 

Your ‘22 SR5 TRD Off Road was $4k cheaper than a ‘20 SR5 TRD Off Road?

I can find lots of ‘22s that are priced much higher than ‘21s. Comparable trims even. Not sure I believe that there was a ‘20 SR5 TRD Off Road with 18k miles that was literally $4k higher than your ’22 SR5 TRD Off Road on the same day you bought it. Even if that is true, then the other dealer is obviously smoking crack, There are tons of ‘20 and ‘21 trucks to be found for far less money.

 

Hook them up and do a tug of war and we’ll really see who’s king

 

5 minute mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN2f60m4344

 

Oh boy, now we have a test

 

Always love a good ole fashion traction war to see who has more power

 

That’s not hard to believe…

My dealer right now has a 2020 SR5 CM with 27K miles (not even TRD off-road) for $49989.

I bought my TRD off-road 22 CM from them for MSRP ($51K)

Some folks just partial to the ‘outgoing classic’ V8 and will pay for it or pay to get something right now.

It’s like when they stop making the Impala back in the 90’s and a bunch of folks went out to pay premium for the last model year…then Chevy brought back that shell of a car (same name but a bigger Cavalier) and some folks sued.

Hopefull no one sues Toyota if they bring out a V8 in a couple of years

 

That’s insane. I was comparing MSRP to MSRP when I said 12-20k higher, but that was beside the main point that I was making: if you’re going to build a 3rd gen, it’s going to drop down right near built 2nd gen fuel economy numbers.

 

8-10 mpg?