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2021 TRD Pro vs 2023 limited

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by Venator, Sep 17, 2022.

  1. Sep 17, 2022 at 5:55 AM
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    Venator

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    All- first post but long time reader and Tundra owner. I’m completely stuck and hoping experience and opinions will help educate me to my decision.
    I had put down 500 on a 2023 limited black w/TRD off road package w/ current build date on 10/3/22.
    Just two days ago a great Toyota dealership (one not charging over msrp on new) received a 2021 TRD Pro.
    This isn’t a debate on price or my $500 on the hook.
    I love the Tundra just need direction:
    V8, tow hooks, proven reliability, older platform, thirsty set up, the GOAT of its time or

    V6 turbo, no tow hooks, fancy tech, alleged better mpg, updated safety tech etc…
    I’ve watched every YouTube video, scoured forums and still at a impasse.
    Again not a price debate they are pretty much equal
     
  2. Sep 17, 2022 at 6:27 AM
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    Terndrerrr

    Terndrerrr guzzling dealer repellent

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    Some guys are going to tell you the ‘22 blows the ‘21 away, and you get loads more comfort, features, and tech, not to mention low-RPM torque, and why would you drive that old gas guzzler.

    Others will tell you they love owning the last year of what is the most proven half ton platform of all time; and the ‘22 went backwards in terms of ground clearance, turning radius, visibility, and interior space. They’ll also say the ‘21’s fuel economy is fine considering they’d only get ~3mpg more with the ‘22.

    I’m in the latter camp. I knew the ‘22 was coming and wanted the last of the 2nd gens. I don’t hate the new truck or think it’s ugly. I like it just fine. I just wanted simple, easy to maintain, get me back from every trip no matter how remote. Yes, it rides like a truck, but apparently the ‘22 is prone to the annoying bed bounce as well.

    If I don’t go to an HD truck because of payload issues, I will wind up in a 3rd gen at some point. But I love my ‘21, and even though I’m already over 32k miles, I have a LOT of years left in it.
     
  3. Sep 17, 2022 at 6:28 AM
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    Cpl_Punishment

    Cpl_Punishment Young men never die.

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    What are you planning to use the truck for?
     
  4. Sep 17, 2022 at 6:44 AM
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    9-5…Primarily a daily commuter, I’m in construction so I haul material occasionally but mostly just visiting job sites.
    Non hunting season hauling mtn bikes and 4 wheelers for some adventure and hunting season- scout trips, hunting trips, mostly gear hauling. Don’t tow a lot, maybe a couple 4 wheelers, small fishing boat. MN resident traveling ND, MT, WI to hunt.
     
  5. Sep 17, 2022 at 6:55 AM
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    Cpl_Punishment

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    Sounds like you're going to get some off road use out of it so I would have leaned towards the 2021. However, the Pro isn't the best choice for towing and hauling as it's leveled.

    In all honesty, the 2023 will probably do everything you need it to.
     
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  6. Sep 17, 2022 at 7:03 AM
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    I would buy a 21 but I wouldn’t pay todays prices. Your 21 pro will cost more than that 23 limited and that’s a hard pill to swallow
     
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    If you go with a ‘21, just install an add-a-leaf, sumo springs, or road master active suspension. They are prone to squat as the OEM leafs are made for off-road articulation not for hauling big loads. I have RAS by the way and have similar needs for my truck. It’s perfect for me.

    I don’t think the ‘22s are as off-road ready off the lot. They sit lower. They’re longer. Breakaway air dam doesn’t exactly inspire confidence. Some people are upset about no recovery hooks. Bigger turn radius, too. Compare the two in profile, and observe how much more truck is in front of the front wheel with the ‘22. It’s due to all the cooling needed with the twin turbos. I’m not saying they can’t be great off-roaders. I just think they need more mods (like a real suspension lift and maybe a front bumper to help your approach angle) to be ready for rutted out, unmaintained service roads.
    I think some of the pricing is color dependent. Seems that some ‘21 LR Pros are down to $63k, but I’ve seen black/white/MGM down in the upper 50s with some miles on them.
     
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  8. Sep 17, 2022 at 8:07 AM
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    What do you drive now?

    Do they have any 3G’s on the lot to test drive?

    General consensus from what I’ve read / watched, is that when driven back to back, the 3G is much superior in basically every metric you’ll encounter in 99% of conditions.

    But if the 2G Pro speaks to your soul, and you prefer that platform, then I could see wanting to stick with it for the long term.

    Personally, I’d go 3G Limited, and not even think twice about it.
     
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  9. Oct 15, 2022 at 1:34 AM
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    I went with a 21 pro for all the reasons above. Had a chance at a 22 pro in store and passed. Aesthetically I’m more of a fan of the 21 pro, and I’m a low tech guy in a high tech world. I can live with lower end mpg being my trucks greatest fault
     
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    Is the 21 "new"? That'll also make a difference.
     
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    Found a new 2021 now? Can't lose either way on this decision really.

    2021- Opportunity to buy a new 2.5 gen, if you don't like it or it's not for you, trade or sell it, there will be buyers and you will likely break even or profit
    2023- Purchase and enjoy your new truck and don't look back ... unless you do and reflect on this opportunity. 2023+ will always be available.

    Either way, enjoy! Happy decisions
     
  13. Oct 15, 2022 at 5:57 AM
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    I lean towards getting the proven 2021 Pro, let them work the kinks out of the new model. I have a 2021 off road limited , which I love , and I will probably pick up a new 2030 model , lol! Either way , good luck and enjoy!
     
  14. Oct 15, 2022 at 6:03 AM
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    Sounds like the 23 better suits your needs. Unless someone else is buying the gas.
     

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