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Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by 2ndgenny, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. Dec 22, 2018 at 8:27 PM
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  2. Jan 9, 2019 at 8:43 AM
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    Here is the 2020 Tundra43C8B580-8784-4119-9973-13EA56DEB2B1.jpg
     
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  3. Jan 9, 2019 at 8:49 AM
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  4. Jan 9, 2019 at 5:46 PM
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    See what happens when you complain about mpg!
     
  5. Jan 9, 2019 at 6:56 PM
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  6. Jan 9, 2019 at 8:31 PM
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  7. Jan 9, 2019 at 8:37 PM
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    3rd gen Taco was just a repackaged 2nd gen, they haven't changed the platform yet. I'm surprised it sells as well as it does. We will see how it does with the new additions to the midsize market.

    Next gen Tundra I think they are at a point that the platform needs to be changed, this is the only way they are going to improve payload,towing capacities, strength, weight etc. If they just give us the same platform reworked they are going to fall way behind the competition.
     
  9. Jan 9, 2019 at 9:07 PM
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    I had a 2006 Tacoma and a 2017 Tacoma. Other than looks, there is no way the 3rd gen was an improvement. It was a joke! Cost me a bundle to get out of that pig.
     
  10. Jan 10, 2019 at 3:39 AM
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    Not to me too the higher initial cost. Also refineries are set up to only make so much diesel. Diesel prices are higher because of demand.
     
  11. Jan 10, 2019 at 1:38 PM
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    We're still a long ways off from having true hybrid powerplants in 4x4's and trucks. FCA's little e-torque venture with the 1500 isn't a true hybrid, despite being marketed as such. Also, its real-world mpg isn't that great according to at least one TFL test.

    I think a diesel Tundra is definitely possible, at least as an alternative engine to their gasoline offerings. A 3rd party OEM (Hino, Cummins) could easily make an engine emissions-compliant for Toyota. Heck, Toyota's overseas diesels are starting to incorporate much of the same emissions controls that are required here (DPF, EGR).

    Is it going to get 30 mpg? No, but mid to low 20's is definitely feasible given the progress that has been made with diesel engine designs. That's nothing ground-breaking, but still an improvement over what most gasoline engines currently offer for trucks. Fuel prices fluctuate depending on region and time of year. What might "make sense" for someone in Texas or Alaska, may not necessarily "make sense" for someone in Illinois. Plus, for people who tow or haul a lot of gear, the diesel engine's performance is often times more important than any longterm cost savings.
     
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    Toyota is parent company to hino ;)
     
  13. Jan 10, 2019 at 5:52 PM
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    The problem is low 20's is possible with a gas engine right now with the power that the Tundra currently has. Around here gas is $2 a gallon, diesel is over $3 and has been much more expensive for the past couple of years so in order for a diesel to be worth while in a half ton truck, it would have to get mid 30's for it to pay off.
     
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  14. Jan 11, 2019 at 10:05 AM
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    I know that. But I do believe that Hino still makes its own engines, instead of just relying on Toyota's diesel designs. In fact, when Toyota was last toying with putting a diesel in the Tundra (back around 2008), it was a Hino inline 6 which was being used for the concept.


    A few gasoline 1/2 tons (namely the F-150 ecoboosts) are rated for low 20's; in real-world driving conditions, they're getting quite a bit below those ratings. Gasoline engines quickly lose their efficiency when they are put under any sort of load (which is inevitable in realistic driving conditions). OEM's will continue to focus on alternative engine designs (hybrid, diesel, EV, hydrogen fuel cell) because there is only so much efficiency that can be wrung out of the gasoline engine.


    For most places in North America, the difference between gasoline and diesel is not $1. I realize though that not everyone wants or needs a diesel. That's why Toyota should at least offer the option of one, just like the other OEM's are doing.

    And FYI, unless you're hauling loads across the country or racking up +15k miles annually, a diesel won't pay for itself in the short term. But diesel does offer performance advantages (better torque and range), and a lot of people are willing to pay a bit extra for those advantages. Similar principle for the F-150 owners who opt for the 3.5l ecoboost over the 2.7l ecoboost or 5.0l v8; they're unlikely to see a payoff, but many still choose the former option due to its performance. Unlike the ecoboost, the diesels, at least the well-made ones, do hold their value very well.
     
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    Other then engine spec what other things do people want. Here is what I want and i know someone will laugh at me for this

    The Toyota Tundra i want to see

    Exterior
    Lighting/body enhancement
    • Better LED Headlight with more focus and clear Lance.
    • Led Brake/Stop lights
    • Better/brighter LED reverse light
    • Antenna delete, Shark fin antenna like tracoma
    • All Door/gate lock system

    Engine
    • Engine is good add the E-torque system
    • Mpg in mid 20’s
    • Differential lock
    • bigger gas tank and more accurate reading

    Interior
    Infotainment
    • Apple Wireless car-play
    • Android Wireless Auto
    • Better Sound System + HD radio "Mark Levinson” on Platinum /1794
    • Bigger and higher resolution screen 9-10"
    • Better center console like current land cruiser

    Electrical
    • Rear Heated seat on Platinum /1794
    • Rear climate control on Platinum /1794
    • Add Auxiliary ports for more lighting switch
    • USB/USB-C Ports for each passenger
    • Push Start button
    • All 5 windows auto up/down
    • heated steering wheel on Platinum /1794

    Or Introduce a Lexus LX 570 Pick up truck :)
     
  16. Jan 11, 2019 at 5:52 PM
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    Based on the sequoia getting a re-design, I'd imagine the tundra is next. I agree that the 1/2 ton diesel is not worth the hassle. The Eco-diesel ram is available, but after the increased fuel cost, DEF fluid, and added maintenance, (fuel filters, more oil, etc...) the diesel doesn't pay back. Not to mention the techs at the dealership aren't tooled or trained for diesels. It has been a pretty big S%^& show for Nissan.
     

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