1st Gen. Lunch Table - General Discussion

Ok, I think I understand. Damn little room to work but I’ll give it a shot. I also haven’t been able to remove #1 and #2 on your diagram, but they look sturdier so I’ll try those before the brown/purple.

Gonna take a quick break... praying someone chimes in with an idea of how I can remove that surround... save me this other headache. Anyone...???

 

These are the only tiny tools I have on hand to reach behind that from-the-back screw. Still trying....

 

With mine being 05-06 those features in my panel are a bit different. I would bet dollars to donuts though that there is some sort of clip that releases with pressure and then you need to pull it away from the switch.

Years of car audio prepared me for just about every connector you can name and I haven’t met one that doesn’t come apart with opposite force applied at the right place. You just always need to make sure that the clip is disengaged. Time, dust and god knows what else just make some a little more stubborn than others.

 

The thing that has always been the handiest for me when removing fasteners are a set of pick tools. Harbor Freight usually has these for way cheap.

 

Thank you, @Professional Hand Model !!!

You are a confidence-inducing Mo’Fo’shō!

 

I have those, panel removal spatulas, a lock-pick set. Just not anything that reached behind to remove a cross-tip screw I can’t get a clear look at....

PHM got me recommitted to staying the course and removing the entire dash. It’s stressful, but I’m making progress.

 

Ok, good insight. I’ll spend some more time messing with it. For one thing, I kinda picture that reason some portion of it will probably be the best way to secure the new base. Which is why I didn’t cut it out.

 

Free:

and out:

used @empty_lord s method & just wrangled the F'er. Feels like more than 80# to me. Drained a swimming pool in the rocker panel too. Choosing to leave the drain plug out & ignore that complication for now - because i suspect it's the 1/4 window at fault & .... cheap commuter - refuse to care.

 

They’re not fun to man handle. But it’s not hard.

 

No detailing threads needed here. I just want to warsh all the gunk out of all the buttcracks. Low priority though.

 

yeah, I'm used to 70#, will do up to 130# at work, but those parcels never have razor edges like this one.
Those dang bolts up from under make it harder than it should be.

 

Hmm. I forget about those bolts being an issue. Last one I did took an hour and a half to get old out and new in. But I’ve done it a fair few times

 

Otherwise you'd just pull the cover & work on it in the car.

Took me about two hours to get it out, but that included move RV, move Taco, turn around pius, put in garage, test if door can open, reposition pius, retest door openability. then, start working on car, step one being go back to house for tools you forgot to bring out. "Amateur" LOL.

 

Alright, my fambly made me stop for the day. It’s important that I dedicate time to eat good food, spend time with people I love, and count my many blessings.

In case anyone wants to help yet again... the reason the damn dash still isn’t out is that one of the air bag fastening bolts is out of reach. I think this is it, visible through the surround that typically hold the radio, but I can’t move the heater vent, and I haven’t found a way to reach up in there AND find an angle to turn the wrench. Anyone got a memory of what worked for you?
This is an aggravating project. I’ve called out of work for tomorrow to keep working on it.

 

Happy Memorial Day

 

What's the cost of a replacement battery?

 

Wait... you don’t remove that bolt

 

Great; thank you. The manual I found says 2003 (mine is a 2002), but diagram indicates thee should be 4 bolts. I’ve found 3. Remaining, per the diagram, should be up under the front of the dash as I lie looking up from the now removed glove compartment....

 

I am not so good with Microsoft excel, but how can I get it to quit rounding up my numerical values?

 

https://www.extendoffice.com/documents/excel/1812-excel-stop-rounding-numbers.html#a1

 

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The 12mm airbag bolt holds the assembly to the dash frame. The airbag will come out WITH the dash.

 

Edit: I reread your last, then re-wrote my entire post.

Ok, the two facing outward toward the passenger seat were 12mm. The one I found up under the dash facing straight downward, viewed by lying in the passenger footwell looking straight up (glove compartment removed) is a 10mm... and the one pictured above that I cannot reach is also a 10mm. Im trying to clarify because I already removed 2 12mm bolts. The manual I found is very specific about removing the airbag via the top of the dash and keeping the airbag upright. But the manual says it’s for 2003. It’s been accurate to this point, but it’s not detailing every step. The diagram depicted the 2 12mm and the one 10mm described above, that I found and removed, but I cannot find the 2nd 10mm. The one pictured is the only bolt I can find anywhere in the general area....

Here’s what I’m referring to:

** I’m happy to leave the airbag attached in the dash; however, do I need to be super careful-? My plans did not include keeping the dash oriented with the airbag upright, or being gentle for that matter.... I planned on taking the cup holder surround out by any means possible, including transporting the dash (with airbag, I guess) if I need help modding something to hold the to-be-installed ham base to the dash....

 

I flip them upside down with no issue.

 

Ok, god that! What about that diagram I posted (edited my last post). So that’s inaccurate for my 2002 ... or it’s just not necessary to do this step to remove the airbag to remove the dash-?

Also, if you can spare a couple more minutes and knowledge, I’ve got another question after this... I’ll go get the pic....

 

The reason you shouldn’t have it face down is if it goes off, your going to end up with a cannon.

but I removed my dash with it still installed and had no issues

 

Once I get the airbag situation resolved, I think I’m almost there... except up under the dash, at the back (close to the firewall/ windshield) are thes big orange inserts. Any tricks you know to removing these without breaking? Or... do you know what they are called in case I have to buy replacements?
This is the farthest most forward drivers side up under the dash.

 

Looking at them now, in the photo, it looks like I can squeeze using needle nose pliers. Easier to see her in the pic than when I was squinting up into there.

 

Those stay in the body. Pull the dash away from the window and the peg will slide out. Shouldn’t break. Mines been out multiple times

 

Going through bulb inventory late at night.
Found an OEM dash bulb.

Pretty sure it's this part number: 83120-04090.

Anyways, this is a bad bulb anyways, but thought I'd tinker with bulb removal from socket. Pretty easy.



Bend the pins out from the base, and then straighten them out. Pulls right out if you're interested in reusing the OEM base.