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1st Gen. Lunch Table - General Discussion

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Pinay, Jan 18, 2020.

  1. Jan 15, 2021 at 6:23 AM
    NUDRAT

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    We aren't all so blessed to be driving our trucks on nice open highway at 75. Some of us are caught in stop & go traffic on the highway. Some are driving in a city where pulling over is a multi-blocks challenge.

    I'm not picking on any one person here, rather I'm commenting on a long standing tendency of the general populous being resistant to maintaining this one particular system.

    Nobody seems to think it unreasonable to take a little sand paper & silicone to the seatbelt guide to keep it functioning well. But $100 for a new tire sensor & all the heels dig in.

    It's a valuable safety feature, more data sooner is good. We used to get our data after work when we checked the news & our email on our home PC. Then we started checking our emails at work. Now we have data feeds on our smart phones - because we want more data sooner.
    So why is TPMS data sooner less valuable than knowing what cousin Suzies boyfriends mother's girlfriend had for lunch?

    $900 for a new iPhone - well, it's the best - okay. $100 for a new valve stem installed - hell no!
     
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  2. Jan 15, 2021 at 8:08 AM
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    empty_lord They see me rollin'

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    07 up
     
  3. Jan 15, 2021 at 8:22 AM
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    I’ll agree to some point. Not everyone has the latest iPhone, and not everyone needs instant TPMS. If our system was smart and gave actual pressures like the newer models... ehh maybe but the cost to benefit ratio is just not there for me in my situation. Especially when 90% of the time it’s the spare.

    That’s because most everyone who owns an almost 20 year old truck is likely to have some spare sandpaper and PB lying around. Not many have their own tire machine and spare sensors.

    Regardless of whether I like it or not, the toaster is going to get digitized, the price will inflate, and the analog one that has worked for over a century will become obsolete. People will then consider them “vintage” and the old stuff that used to be cheap and work just fine will become expensive and hard to find. All in the name of progress I suppose.
     
  4. Jan 15, 2021 at 9:20 AM
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    “Progress” more like 10 steps backwards in many cases. And this is coming from a 25 year old
     
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  5. Jan 15, 2021 at 10:19 AM
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    jpink Aspiring Shade Tree Mechanic

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    What’s the name of the little metal clip that goes on plastic taillight assembly and bolt goes into?

    I was missing one on the passenger assembly. Now it’s missing two!

    Dealer claims not sold separately.
     
  6. Jan 15, 2021 at 10:55 AM
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    Im 35 and sick of seeing it. It blows my mind that this is the marketing model for vehicles now.

    Create a feature that is not really needed and shove it down our throats on how bad we need it because... safety. Throw that specific feature into a package that is only offered on the “Platinum model” and charge 10k extra for it. Perceived overall value goes up because “If the platinum is 60k, why buy the work truck model at 45k? It has nothing on it.”

    Couple all this with being able to finance for 84 months or something ridiculous and you have the out of control vehicle climate that we’re currently sitting in. The one where you have a base model Tahoe sitting at 50k and the Platinum Escalade at over 100k. They are the exact same vehicle and there is absolutely no way that they have over 50k of different “luxury” features into it.
     
  8. Jan 15, 2021 at 11:02 AM
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    in other news. i just ordered more shit for the taco.. it'll have a filler neck now. and the gaskets for the sending unit.. i have to find a used sending unit though.. cant get the bracket anymore...
     
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  9. Jan 15, 2021 at 11:19 AM
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    Boom. That's it.
     
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  10. Jan 15, 2021 at 12:31 PM
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    My OEM wheel underneath seemed to hold best with the face of it against the bed. The old 265/70 R17 fits underneath fairly well. Full size spare.

    77DA431C-776A-41D3-930F-FD7816A92AF9.jpg
     
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  11. Jan 15, 2021 at 12:38 PM
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    Hooptytrix Squeaky Chicken

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    Figured I'll try them out. A week or so of driving should be long enough to see any difference in performance or driveability.

    PXL_20210115_203354094.jpg PXL_20210115_203340730.jpg
     
  12. Jan 15, 2021 at 12:42 PM
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    Doubtful. But do let us know. Is there a country of origin written in them?
     
  13. Jan 15, 2021 at 12:46 PM
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    I doubt it also. They do feel hefty, oem units feel lighter. Isn't everything made in china?
     
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  14. Jan 15, 2021 at 12:48 PM
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    Oem are not Chinese. Not sure on MSD. They do likely have a beefier coil inside. But will it translate to performance? Likely not. Toyota’s not known for weak spark like ford eco boosts that do actually gain a little from beefier coils
     
  15. Jan 15, 2021 at 1:02 PM
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    lsaami Let ‘er buck

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    mine were stamped china and I noticed no performance difference, even with the cracked OEM coils.
     
  16. Jan 15, 2021 at 1:03 PM
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    They look pretty in there, that's worth at least 1hp
    PXL_20210115_210205821.jpg
     
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    @MrDirtjumper I'll raise a beer to all that. I have felt that way for a long time. I get sick when I see the 3rd gen guys ask things like "should I trade my 2018 for a 2021? It has more bells and whistles".

    Part of why I plan to keep my truck forever is it doesn't have much of that shit on it. ABS and airbags are where the tech stops. No need for any lights on my side mirrors, no need to put a sensor on my bumper for cruise control, no need to have fawking wifi in my truck. Its a truck, nothing more or less.
     
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    I’m a fan of adding the features I want onto a proven platform of a truck
     
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    There's nothing wrong with that. After driving my wifes Element I can see adding stereo controls to the steering wheel being worthwhile. I agree with improving lighting too, thats all good.

    I just can't stand how vehicles are adding lights and alerts and crap that makes up for bad driving. How long before they put methane sensors in each seat and your car snitches on who farted?
     
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    Useless tech sells to the masses. That’s the issue.
     
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  22. Jan 15, 2021 at 1:20 PM
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    des2mtn Touring the gas stations of CA/AZ via dirt trails

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    Buy a brand new truck and the main thing you're paying for is the depreciation expense.

    Doug DeMuro raises a good point regarding certain automotive technologies in his reviews. Display screens, TVs, fancy stereos etc. will look funky in 10-20 years when compared to the industry standards then. Built-in navigation systems become outdated and you're relying on years old map packs. As a vehicle ages, a lot of today's cutting-edge technology will be outdated and harder to repair.

    I'm very happy with the limited tech my truck has (ABS, airbags, heated seats, thermometer/compass, cassette player). Any other tech I need I can find the solution that works specific to me at that point in time.
     
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    That 600hp Toyota motor is also an acceptable feature to add. I say go for it!
     
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    $$$ if it was like 8k is own it right now but 10500 really is past my ultimate limit.
     
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    Cadillac cts-v crate engine is like $25,000. 10,5 depending on what is in there doesn't appear to bad.
     
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    That’s only part of the cost. You’d still need to have engine management and what not to actually make it run. Total cost would be around 15k I’m guessing to have that fully setup and running. And being a drag engine, it won’t last long before needing rebuilt
     
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    If I can squeeze another ounce of mpg then I'll be happy.
     
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    I'm familiar with all the expenses and that's why I stopped racing and driving really fast. It's addictive. I can't afford it so I drive a V8 Toyota. Added benefit, police haven't pulled me over since I started driving pickups
     
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    Yeah, but still.

    I'm setting up a "Go Fund Dan"
    Who else wants to see him put that motor in his Tacoma? Let's chip in!
     
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