1st Gen. Lunch Table - General Discussion

People in the house put them hands in the air
Cause

One two three times, two to the six
Jonesin for your fix of that limp Bizkit shit!

 

Plow trucks get beat mercilessly... ask me how I know Esp transmissions. That things been beat like it owed a guy money.

 

Kind of looks like someone took a mallet to it rather than it being an accident.

 

Just did that in my shop Big ugly orange wires. Should be good though with big gage? It knocked the dust off the Bose today anyway

 

Is it in a part that might be inaccessible? Sometimes that happens in a rewire. There's 2 options. Put a 2 wire receptacle on it. Put a GFI on it ot the rectacle ahead of it and line/load the wires(if it's wired that way).

 

Look man, I can't help it I buy shiny new parts then get crippling anxiety at the thought of starting working on them and have to cry uncontrollably in the corner.

Nah, I'll see if I can't thin the parts pile down once the weather cools off. Probably right before Merustober. Also, at the end of August I may have a new costal rear bumper if @wtrbrdm doesn't get his sold.

 

Speaking of which:

Before:




After:

 

Did you keep it and restore it? What a shame... stupid fks.

 

Insurance totalled it and gave me $6500 for. I paid $5k for it and had it a year. It was a good learner bike. 2016 ninja 650 with 6k miles. Replaced it with the 2021 Aprilia Tuono 660 with 62 miles.

 

This is everything I know at this point:

I have a ton of pics from a previous sale for comparison, including shots of basement where the wiring originates, and the attic, where wiring ends. I have a permit showing the house was fully-rewired in late summer/early fall 2024 with info on what was done, and the company doing the work is very well known, highly rated, and does a lot of ancient rewires to modernize homes for newer electric climate control, people who want car chargers and modern appliances, and solar. The intent behind the rewire was, effectively, all of those things, some of which the current owners already installed (no solar yet). They were wanting to get off-grid and live off wood and electric for heat.

Fast forward to today, I see a nice new 200A service + panel + breakers installed with all internal wiring tucked and sorted neatly/professionally. New emergency shutoff outside the house with a new meter. Coming out of the new 200A panel, I see new Romex 14/2 and 12/2 in the place of what was previously a mix of Romex, cloth, and BX/flex. Some of that old BX that got pulled out during the overhaul was clearly ancient and probably hiding cloth inside. The house had a permitted addition in the mid 1980s, which was properly done and inspected, although I see the deck they added doesn't have tico'd deck hangers, and the center support beam has a mild twist, probably because the supports span too far. But all the wiring to that new-ish addition of the house looks to be modern in the old and new pics.

Today, I see no visible signs anywhere under/around/outside the house of cloth or BX, and that includes nice new Romex up in the farthest corners of the attic. I do see spots where the lath & plaster has been repaired, so someone was definitely in the walls at some point, leaving me optimistic. That said, the inspectors (3-person team) pored over everything they could get into, but they don't take outlet covers off to inspect what's behind ( ). As pictured here, they found a couple 2-prong outlets with ancient 20A receptacles, one modern outlet with open ground, and there was one spot in the kitchen where an outlet should've been GFCI but they said it wasn't ... thing is, I dunno if they actually took a GF tester to it, or only visually looked for the buttons. Visibly it's a non-GFCI outlet, and I dunno how things are in localities of Texas (TQ) or Maine (MZ), but when I grew up, and I believe it holds true in ATL as well, as long as the 1st receptacle out of the box has a GFCI outlet, or the breaker in the box feeding the circuit is GFCI, the chain upstream is adequately covered. While that's not the end of it, those things could speak to bigger issues, so we aren't naive, and have a clear worst-case scenario in our heads (in mine, at least).

I'll be getting my hands in the wiring around the end of 1st week of September, but I'm planning a walkthru again, virtually today, to get a count on 2-prong outlets, archaic ceiling fixtures, switches and switch plates. I'm hoping I don't find anything stupid while hanging new fixtures, but again ... I'm cautiously optimistic. I have full plans for the house, and a good idea of where things line up (wall-wise) for the floors, where the original house ended and the 1980s addition started, so I have a really good idea of the top 3-4 suspects which would be most difficult to wire, those will be the 2-prong outlets I'm checking first.

My only skepticism is, if you were in the wall already to replace cloth, and you had to tie it to the rear of an outlet, why wouldn't you replace the receptacle, knowing a modern 15A receptacle and cover plate costs less than $1 at most stores.

There were a few other safety issues here and there, but nothing I can't manage for under $1k if I do myself, or probably $2.5k if we hired it out.

​