1st Gen. Lunch Table - General Discussion

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-01-08/lack-of-water-from-hydrants

 

This didn't age well:

https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1877...877060446844314071&currentTweetUser=mazemoore

California's failures to properly manage land and old undergrowth properly, to manage water properly, and people building where the necessary infrastructure is not in place to deal with moments like this when the winds are high are the problems.

 

404 on that link DD
During that live broadcast they were talking about lack of water, complicated by so many people fighting fire themselves with their hoses.
The inability to fight from the air because of the wind... bad.

 

Very interesting! It was working when I linked it...

 

Let's try again:

https://www.latimes.com/california/...es-fire-is-hampering-firefighters-caruso-says

 

They have the water to fill the tanks, but the tanks are not able to be filled fast enough. It's a demand issue and a problem with the district's water distribution system, not a problem with the supply of water for the distribution system. But yes, I agree it should be fixed. Massive water infrastructure upgrades will have to come out of the City budget or ratepayers pockets, plus disrupt the community, and people don't want to see their water bills go up even more when their water bills are already high enough (In CA, regulated city municipal water districts that are public such as LADWP can't profit and only charge for the costs associated with purchasing the water and maintaining the system).

Three out of four of California's major reservoirs are over 90% full and the Super Scoopers were pulling out of Lake Castaic earlier. I spent last week along the California Aqueduct and saw tons of water that's making it's way through to maintain SoCal's water supply. It sucks LADWP's distribution system isn't keeping up.



https://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/products/rescond.pdf

If the power goes out where I live and the pumps don't have power, eventually there wouldn't be water where I live either for the hydrants once the pressure drops low enough. The Municipal electricity charge to pump water to my house is about the same as the cost of the water commodity.

 

Just be safe, des. My concern is more the human and property losses. I do care. I'm not looking to win an argument.

 

My wife’s uncle settled in the Palisades after serving in the Navy adoring the war. He died a few years ago and one of the nouveau rich Californicators bought his small house for $1M+ and immediately demolished it to built something new.

 

Hopefully, he/she/they can get insurance on their new build.

 

Pacific Palisades right now. So sad.

 

Worse than that, the budget cut fire department has reported many places where fire hydrants didn’t have water.

No power all day but luckily the winds have died down and didn’t have to evacuate. Camping gear coming in handy today lol

 

Whoa... that is sad.

 

It almost doesn’t look real

 

I know, Voss. I know what's going on there. Stay safe. If you need to come east, lmk. I will help you.

 

Appreciate it. Home is home. All in all grateful for the day. People lost their homes just 10miles east of me.

 

How is it some of those trees show hardly any fire damage?

 

I was just thinking that. I think it has a lot to do with the sheer speed the fire moves. Also the structures are much drier. It's like the structure was consumed before the trees could 'catch' maybe?

 

I can respect and appreciate that. Just want you (and any other SoCal members) to know that we are here for you. Stay safe.

 

I take it nobody had blue tarps on their roofs?

 

You're stirring shit

 

Not to change the subject, @Voss are you coming to T2S this year?

 

Not sure yet. Nicer camp than where we stayed last time might sway the odds in favor tho

 

It should be way nicer than that dust bowl we were in

 

Lol. You didn’t enjoy camping in ashes either?

Location announced yet?

 

Sedona adjacent

 

Have you heard from any of our non active CA best gens lately? I hope everyone is ok and not on fire.

 

I will be staying at a local resort. Not because I don't enjoy roughing it sometimes, but I don't want to rough it this time. I want all the amenities. It's that simple.

 

Yeah, the rest of them are good. No threat to anyone currently.

 

And our honorary best gen, Sid too?