1st Gen. Lunch Table - General Discussion

New U bolts. It's probably about time to check all our work.

 

I don't think I ever retorqued the V6 either time I did any of the suspension work... That was like 54k miles ago...

 

The second time around on the V6 I used aftermarket u-bolts from scamazon. I re-used the alcan u-bolts on crackie because I had to cut the originals off. I'll go back through one day, and replace them with legit unmolested u-bolts.

 

Jason says he likes 70-80 lb ft. I can probably fit the torque wrench in my bags. Not sure if TSA will freak out. Maybe hit Home Depot while I’m there is a better plan.

 

Pretty sure that's almost every time right? @Sunnier's catastrophe is the only time I've heard of the bolts failing

https://youtu.be/6KzYOBUzAH0

Isn't that right around thanxgiving? Might run into a bit of traffic making a long drive longer. Just a thought

I've been hearing that clip a bunch lately. It's used for a song intro that's on my current playlist. 88 Fingers Louie?

U bolts, not ball joint bolts. Wait a minute, are you not supposed to re-use U-bolts?

 

@FrozenPoontang
I bet it's the same song. fawk i just heard it today. Ill have to get back to ya on that

 

Back when people burned CD's i made dad a roadtrip CD with the 'daves not here' skit on it.

mostly 70's rock.

 

I never retorqued the UBolts after the add a leafs we're installed. That was 3.5 years ago.

I do check my LBJ bolts though.



What's the torque spec supposed to be for the U-bolts? 98?

 

You can take a short 1/2 drive with deep socket(s) and get on the wrench - you won't be able to over torque them, and the short (standard) drive will fit easy with tires on. Check them at 100/500 and torque them properly at home. They have already been installed, so you are just taking up any slack for bolt stretch.

 

PUTTIN' THE BAND BACK TOGETHER!

I don't remember any of their tracks with Cheech & Chong. There was one with that cartoony bit about a mouse or something.

You know they dropped a new album of new content a couple of years ago? It actually didn't suck. A little soft, and slower, but listenable for a (3rd?) reunion.

I've always appreciated the basslines in their stuff, Principe was pretty awesome. Shame his playing got pushed to the background w/Rise Against...

 

My after market are like 86. I don’t have my FSM with me. I’m sure 90-100 is just fine.

 

Not supposed to re use them. Just retorque at 500 and later if you want. I’m pretty sure u bolt failure is from loose, or using old bolts that end up being over torqued with the on and off with corroded threads. They stretch which is why they are really one use. My buddy and I used to re use them all the time on 77’ blazers and never had a problem. It wasn’t a good a good practice though.

 

Ok so order new u bolts for the Tacoma then? May as well go with a flip kit? Archive on that?

 

Spend Dave’s money….

 

That’s the flip kit to get in my opinion

 

Meh, why not stay on-course. Honestly it's probably better just to let it go. You can build a new one.

 

Those people tied themselves to that track.

 

They did a tour shortly after that release just a couple years ago. The 1960's-ish(sounding) radio broadcast news bulletin about the deadly white mouse running loose in the city.."Please! Be careful!!!"

 

I've had my U-bolts off, and back on, and torqued probably 4 times. They had never been removed prior. No good? I'll just throw a tackweld on each nut problem solved (and saved for another day)

 

Lol, don't weld them, the issue is bolt stretch and fatigue, not that they back off. 90% it's no big deal, if your threads were clean and you never over torqued, the 10% can be a bitch, though.

 

Send it 'til you bend it.

 

But but but ... that's what everyone told them is the only possible way to get ahead in life!

Killing them is probably the right answer, though. For being gullible enough to believe it. It tracks.

 

That pic was harder to find than expected. I remember the 90's monstertrucks (mud trucks because houston) having like 12" of u-bolt threads exposed and curled way out.

 

Seems that I have finally identified the dead blow thud that is perhaps the last noise I hear in the cab that drives me nuts. Passengers don't notice it. I'm pretty sure I can pick up that play; I don't think it's necessary or good in this case for the engine to shift back like that. I'm watching the frame side frame mounts flex, seems like that can become a fatigue issue and possibly lead to failure...
@empty_lord - what say you?
First video is passenger side , second video is driver side - double the video speed and it becomes more apparent. Probably easier to play it with sound off.

https://youtu.be/H-zy9-ahzc0
https://youtu.be/YCJDrBu5CL8

 

Are those your Solid Off Road mounts flexing or am I looking at something else?

 

The solids aren't flexing, they are just shifting on the bushings. The frame mount (the welded to the frame rail part, and the frame rail) are moving. I think some movement there is to be expected, but with the solids sliding back, it gets a bit of a hammer effect.

 

Is the driveshaft slip yoke slipping? Is it spring wrap thats causing the movement?

 

I think the torque, that raises the trans mount because of/with spring warp is causing the shifting. But, I think you just solved it. Because the mounts are at the bottom of the engine - then the back end of the trans shifts up, thats pulling on the mounts. Probably too much force to address at the motor mounts. I need a poly/solid style trans mount to hold that thing down and prevent the hinge-ing like effect.

 

I think I'll build a bushing style poly trans mount. I've been considering it anyway, now I have a good reason to try.