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10k vs 5k mile oil change

Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by sabet, Aug 3, 2022.

  1. Sep 22, 2022 at 5:25 PM
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    I would do the inverse. The oil is touted as being "good" for a greater number of miles than the filter. You just need to do what makes you comfortable. I'm comfortable doing both at one year/10K miles.
     
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    Oil and filter with Mobil 1 Synthetic ($26 for 5qts at Wallyworld) and OEM filter. 5k interval for the 2019
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    I usually just change my oil very often (draining and filling the pan) to keep the varnish out of the engine, but I've gone up to 5k miles on one of those Amsoil synthetic filters (my OCD was really kicking in at that point though). It made me feel much better about reusing the filter if the oil going through it is always really clean (due to ultra frequent drain and fills).
     
  4. Sep 22, 2022 at 5:54 PM
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    I guess that the way that I tend to think of it is that I'd be more comfortable making sure that my filter is in the best reasonable condition filtering any detritus that may be in the oil versus simply pushing clean oil through a used filter. I was trying to conjure up a goofy analogy, but the best I can do is to think of putting used socks (filter) on your freshly showered feet (engine) and changing to new shoes (oil). Not the best, but it's been a busy week, lol. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    That’s the trouble with using our feelings to make decisions. There’s no factual basis for it. Changing your oil at an unusual frequency is just wasting oil and not benefiting the engine in a real way. Doesn’t hurt it, but wastes oil.
     
  6. Sep 22, 2022 at 6:07 PM
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    That's just like, your flavor of kool-aid man.
     
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    To me, if the oil turns brown, there are contaminants in it that don't benefit the engine in any way and it's best if they're heavily diluted out (with a drain and fill) or completely removed with a full oil and filter change. Just the way I am, I guess...
     
  8. Sep 22, 2022 at 6:34 PM
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    For the past decade+ (3 different tundras) I have changed my oil during my yearly state mandated inspection.

    On average it’s about 7500-8000 miles. There have been years when we road tripped far. Prior to road trip I would change the oil, and then changed again on yearly inspection.

    Zero issues. I have always kept it under the 10k mark for sure.
     
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  9. Sep 22, 2022 at 6:47 PM
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    Mobil 1 Extended Performance gets a bit stinky after 25k miles, just sayin'. :rofl:

    When I first moved to this country I thought someone was pulling my leg when they said do oil changes at 3k intervals. You wot mate? You lot must think we Brits are tighter than a duck's ass when we are doing 6k intervals with old skool oil, you don't want to know what we do with a bit of synthetic lube...
    Ergo, my non-smoking engine that spends far too much time offroad on dusty building sites and up to it's axles in farm mud is obviously due for failure sooner rather than later as it gets done around 20k, or five months for those who think in a timely manner.

    My old motorbike used to get 3k intervals though, I'd change the synthetic oil every time I put a new rear tire on it. Something that redlines at 11,500 and potters along at 150, the thought of a piston going up through a tank of fuel and my neck was a trifle more sobering than popping a rod through the block in a truck ...
     
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  10. Sep 22, 2022 at 7:11 PM
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    I don't know what ya said but I like the way you said it...
     
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    who cares, few more years we don't have to change oil anymore
     
  12. Sep 22, 2022 at 7:25 PM
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  13. Sep 23, 2022 at 3:01 AM
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    Whatever this forum told me to do
    grown ass, God fearin', responsible men change oil & filter at each service.

    the other guys do one or the other.
     
  14. Sep 23, 2022 at 3:38 AM
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    Amen
     
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    Good thing you don't own a diesel.
     
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  16. Sep 23, 2022 at 5:33 AM
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    Wait till he finds out clean oil can cause varnish :eek:
     
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  17. Sep 23, 2022 at 5:55 AM
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    5k all the way. Oil is cheap and engines are not.
     
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    Wouldn't say oil is cheap but relative to the cost of an engine, yeah. I've only bought Mobil 1 when it was on sale. Now that I'm an Amsoil member, I'm having to recalibrate my idea of what I wanna pay for oil
     
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    Don’t get me wrong, Amsoil is good but it’s overpriced. Most common brand full synthetic oils that meet API specifications required by the manufacturer will do the job just fine.
     
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    I feel like with oil you get what you pay for.
     
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    If you run 5k OCI, amsoil is a waste, 10k is about break even, 15k-20k OCIs makes its cheaper to run than off the shelf oils. API specs also have a ceiling, so when oil blenders make an oil that is truly superior than anything off the shelf, it exceeds the API spec, and therefore cannot get the label on the bottle without taking a step backwards.

    The API spec is a great thing to adhere to, but where it limits inferior oils from getting the label, it also limits superior oils from getting it as well.
     
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    I paid a little less than $1200 for my current stash of oil :eek: but I have enough to last me for several years.
     
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    Agreed, run Amsoil 15,000 + miles to make it worth spending the extra $$$$
     
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    Whatever this forum told me to do
    I'm a bit unwashed as it relates to Amsoil.

    why is it so hard to find?
    How does one buy it?
    is it still $10/qt?
     
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    I too was a BITOG hoarder of the green elixer of the God's that was Castrol Syntec 0W30 red label ! Had 300 quarts at one point.
     
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    what’s the shelf life look like on that stuff?
     
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    You definitely have me beat :fistbump:

    I'm running High Performance Lubricants now, if you haven't been on bitog in awhile, you should check them out. They're a site sponsor now, and Dave is one the best people I've ever had the pleasure of meeting, and he is entirely too humble for his own good, he also makes an incredible oil, with an amazing group of people working with him such as Leslie Rudnick, and many others.
     
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    The trouble with extended OCI is it really depends on individual use. Synthetic oil is superior to Dino oil in that it doesn’t break down and degrade over time the way Dino oil does. So cool, my oil lasts a long time! But we change oil not just due to oil degradation, we also change due to contamination. Environmental, like dust and debris ingested through the air intake and contamination from byproducts of combustion. If you’re running in dusty conditions, 15k intervals is probably a bad idea. Especially you K&N filter guys. If you’re all highway and not towing, extended intervals may be possible.
     
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    This was brought up during the open house at HPL, the oil doesn't necessarily go bad, most oils just have additive separation. Every single batch of oil they make, they keep a sample of it in a clear bottle, and they have samples that have been sitting on the shelf for 10yrs with no product separation at all. It's pretty incredible.

    I had an incident running pennzoil where all the additives dropped out of suspension and were resting on the bottom of the jug, it was a brand new jug straight from store.
     
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    I will check it out . Thank you :cheers:
     
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