1. Welcome to Tundras.com!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tundra discussion topics
    • Transfer over your build thread from a different forum to this one
    • Communicate privately with other Tundra owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

0W-20 Engine oil Brand Suggestions

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by 14 Tundra, Jan 14, 2020.

  1. Jan 17, 2020 at 5:50 AM
    #91
    RDRunner

    RDRunner New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2019
    Member:
    #33091
    Messages:
    241
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2016 SR5 Crewmax 4x4 TSS Edition
    Did you notice anything different about the motor (how it ran) when you switched to 5W30? I am trying to remember if the Tundra has an oil pressure gauge and if so did you notice any increase in oil pressure?
     
  2. Jan 17, 2020 at 6:03 AM
    #92
    omgboost

    omgboost The Accountant

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2019
    Member:
    #29334
    Messages:
    1,087
    Gender:
    Male
    East Coast
    Vehicle:
    2012 Sequoia Platinum
    Would temperature have any to do with it too? The UAE doesn't get as cold as the US and it's a lot hotter at times.
     
  3. Jan 17, 2020 at 6:08 AM
    #93
    Ericsopa

    Ericsopa Old man and the sea

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2015
    Member:
    #2069
    Messages:
    1,395
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    N of Rio Grande, S of Red, E of Pecos, W of Sabine
    Vehicle:
    2013 Tundra CrewMax TRD Ltd Super Duper White OVtuned
    Nope, just have to meet US fuel economy standards. The average MPG of all vehicles manufactured by a given company for sale in the US has to be at a certain standard, or be taxed more heavily. That adds to consumers' cost, thus making the company's products less competitive. Companies use various methods to help achieve this, e.g., weight reduction, thinner oil and other lubes, heated lubes (thus our transmission fluid heaters) and of course, engine/drivetrain modifications. It's also why most manufacturers have switched to synthetic lubricants. Synthetics do reduce friction. All that said, I use the recommended 0W-20, believing it to be just as good for longevity as a heavier oil. I just use what I consider to be the best synthetic that I can.

    CAFE=corporate average fuel economy

    https://www.transportation.gov/mission/sustainability/corporate-average-fuel-economy-cafe-standards
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2020
    omgboost likes this.
  4. Jan 17, 2020 at 6:17 AM
    #94
    sundance

    sundance New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27526
    Messages:
    411
    Gender:
    Male
    Quaker State 0w-20
     
  5. Jan 17, 2020 at 6:19 AM
    #95
    BigTree

    BigTree New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27537
    Messages:
    49
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2016 Sequoia Limited
    All depends what you want to do. So are you gonna build a motor (example ford 302) one for your car,your gonna drive everyday and expect to get 200,000-300,000 miles out of it. The other 302 is going in your Hot rod Mustang. Are you gonna build the motors, with the same specs. tolerances, clearances, etc. around the Crankshaft Main Bearings, Cylinder Block Bore Diameters, Piston ring gap clearances, connecting Rod wrist pin fit, etc ??? If you don't know, then just leave it up to the experts, use what Toyota says, and just be happy, when you get over 350,000 miles out of your Toyota, without any issues, but what do I know ??
     
  6. Jan 17, 2020 at 6:39 AM
    #96
    BigTree

    BigTree New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27537
    Messages:
    49
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2016 Sequoia Limited
    Hi Johnson man, Just a note on those lawn mowers in Really Hot Central Texas. I'm sure the 10W-40 is O.K, but a better choice for any
    air-cooled engine, might be straight 40 weight oil. It might even be recommended in the owners manual, depending on what brand, That's what I use here, up north, in my lawn mowers, and log-splitter, still hot in the summer, helps-protect air cooled engines, for extreme heat. Just something to think about.
     
    Johnsonman likes this.
  7. Jan 17, 2020 at 6:43 AM
    #97
    Warreng

    Warreng New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Member:
    #6495
    Messages:
    1,000
    Gender:
    Male
    Its 0w20 here in Canada too. Cold as fuck right now.
     
  8. Jan 17, 2020 at 6:47 AM
    #98
    sundance

    sundance New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27526
    Messages:
    411
    Gender:
    Male
    Toyota designed the 5.7 with VVT. That system is designed to run on 0w-20 oil. The engine oil viscosity affects the VVT.
     
  9. Jan 17, 2020 at 6:53 AM
    #99
    BigTree

    BigTree New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27537
    Messages:
    49
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2016 Sequoia Limited
    Nice, Big Bucks in Canada, Ahhh, Getting Cold Here Too,
     
  10. Jan 17, 2020 at 6:57 AM
    #100
    RDRunner

    RDRunner New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2019
    Member:
    #33091
    Messages:
    241
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2016 SR5 Crewmax 4x4 TSS Edition
    I guess you missed the post above with the Toyota owner's manual page from a 2020 Toyota Landcruiser with the 5.7 engine that clearly shows that at least some 5.7s were NOT designed to run on 0w-20. Did Toyota build the US 5.7 different than the foreign 5.7 because your statement is incorrect as far as globally?
    Screen Shot 2020-01-16 at 4.43.04 PM.jpg
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2020
    Hbjeff and Vizsla like this.
  11. Jan 17, 2020 at 7:12 AM
    #101
    BigTree

    BigTree New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27537
    Messages:
    49
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2016 Sequoia Limited
    You got that right, Sundance !! tiny oil passages, that spin, the VVT, system, and on a side note, if you don't change your oil and filter as recommended, the VVT system gets gummed up, oil sludge,etc, clogs-up the system. Just for the record, when mechanical engineers
    (Toyota, Ford, anybody I know ,I machine crazy shit for them day in and day out) sit down and design ANYTHING, weather its a motor or a new 10 speed automatic tranny, the WHOLE design, machine tolerances, bearing clearances, all the dimensions, are based on
    What Oil is being used to lubricate the system. Meaning Oil weight, viscosity at different temperatures, density, etc.. Like I said before...
    But what do I know... and the specs will change when Toyota stops producing the Land Cruiser in the U.S, and with no more 5.7, and only sold overseas with a V-6 twin turbo,in 2021. Your gonna need a different oil. L.O.L
     
  12. Jan 17, 2020 at 7:21 AM
    #102
    BigTree

    BigTree New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27537
    Messages:
    49
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2016 Sequoia Limited
    Engine may be difficult to start... ???? because the oil is to Thick, so go ahead crank it over , when its 10 degrees out with 10W-40 or why not 20W-50 or STP oil treatment for that matter, and as it's trying to start ,grinding metal on metal, in your engine, and if it fires up...
    Don't worry, Be Happy, you know more than Toyota !
     
  13. Jan 17, 2020 at 7:29 AM
    #103
    Hbjeff

    Hbjeff New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2019
    Member:
    #24845
    Messages:
    4,897
    Gender:
    Male
    Huntington Beach
    Vehicle:
    2010 DC 5.7 2wd
    Trd sways, bullydog, magnaflow, sumo springs
    I don’t think anyone is saying to use a thicker oil if it is 10 degrees outside. Some people live in the southwest where the winter temp is 45 at the lowest ever. Average daily temp for 6 months out of the year is 85-90 in many places. Thats pretty warm.
     
    RitcheyRch likes this.
  14. Jan 17, 2020 at 7:32 AM
    #104
    Johnsonman

    Johnsonman New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2019
    Member:
    #39132
    Messages:
    1,205
    Gender:
    Male
    Austin
    Vehicle:
    Sequoia
    LED headlamps/fogs; interior footlamps.
    Thanks for the reminder, it's coming back to me now, the manual says 30 wt straight, 40 is probably better. It is Amazing how much hotter an air cooled engine gets than a water cooled one. : ^ )))
     
  15. Jan 17, 2020 at 7:34 AM
    #105
    WrigglingWilly

    WrigglingWilly Well used Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2018
    Member:
    #17292
    Messages:
    534
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2018 Tundra 4x4 5.7 8.1bed
    LineX
    I tried the Amazon oil on my 2011 Tacoma, the 0-20 weight, and I felt the truck did not run as smooth as usual.
     
  16. Jan 17, 2020 at 7:51 AM
    #106
    sundance

    sundance New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27526
    Messages:
    411
    Gender:
    Male
    Who would of thought any motor in Europe or some other country.......would be built to a different spec than the ones being made in Alabama..... I mean Geesh....

    Yes. They are different motors built in different places. Good job.
     
  17. Jan 17, 2020 at 7:55 AM
    #107
    sundance

    sundance New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27526
    Messages:
    411
    Gender:
    Male
    To me, if you're going to do anything different. Run the 0w-40 oils showing up.
     
  18. Jan 17, 2020 at 8:00 AM
    #108
    RDRunner

    RDRunner New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2019
    Member:
    #33091
    Messages:
    241
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2016 SR5 Crewmax 4x4 TSS Edition
    Maybe they are and maybe the are not built to different specifications. Some folks on here think the US and European are the same specifications and thus that European owner's manual page proves you can use 5w30 in the US 5.7 despite what the US manual recommends, and then some folks probably believe the US and European 5.7 have different specifications and thus that European owner's manual does not mean you can use 5w30 in US 5.7 motors. So far nobody has proven either in this thread--just a lot of assumptions.
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2020
  19. Jan 17, 2020 at 8:03 AM
    #109
    sundance

    sundance New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27526
    Messages:
    411
    Gender:
    Male
    I just don't understand why anyone would think 5w-30 would make that much of a difference. All the testing I've seen, and I've seen much, all the 0w oils are vastly superior in preventing wear than any 5w oils. I know the 5.7 can be noisy but just ignore it. Turn the radio up or put on a mild exhaust.
     
  20. Jan 17, 2020 at 8:11 AM
    #110
    RDRunner

    RDRunner New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2019
    Member:
    #33091
    Messages:
    241
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2016 SR5 Crewmax 4x4 TSS Edition
    Like I posted in this thread and another thread, lots of folks started having oil consumption problems using the lighter 0w20 and they never had that problem with earlier model cars that used 5W30. That is my SOLE reason for looking into using 5w30 because I do suspect that oil consumption is tied to the 0W20 oil and I am not alone with that suspicion.
     
  21. Jan 17, 2020 at 8:16 AM
    #111
    sundance

    sundance New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27526
    Messages:
    411
    Gender:
    Male
    I've had Tundras for 13 years and never had a single issue with oil consumption. I've always used either Mobil 1 or Quaker State. I stopped Mobil 1 because it go to be like adding water. Quaker State is better and makes the engine a little quieter.

    What evidence is there of oil consumption? Is anyone getting fouled plugs?
     
  22. Jan 17, 2020 at 8:26 AM
    #112
    TopShapeCabrio

    TopShapeCabrio New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2019
    Member:
    #31441
    Messages:
    47
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Pat
    Vehicle:
    2017 DC Tundra TRD
    Raider LoRider Tonneau Cover/WeatherTech
    Warreng likes this.
  23. Jan 17, 2020 at 8:29 AM
    #113
    Hbjeff

    Hbjeff New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2019
    Member:
    #24845
    Messages:
    4,897
    Gender:
    Male
    Huntington Beach
    Vehicle:
    2010 DC 5.7 2wd
    Trd sways, bullydog, magnaflow, sumo springs
    I highly doubt toyota makes the 5.7 to different specs in different countries. That doesn’t make manufacturing sense
     
    JohnLakeman likes this.
  24. Jan 17, 2020 at 8:31 AM
    #114
    RDRunner

    RDRunner New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2019
    Member:
    #33091
    Messages:
    241
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2016 SR5 Crewmax 4x4 TSS Edition
    That can be said for lots of folks, but then lots of folks have had a completely different experience and they used the same exact oil as you used. Same with other Tundra issues, including warped rotors, etc. Lots of folks never had the problem and lots of folks have.

    Google around you will find a ton of people having oil consumption problems with lot of different brands of cars (Honda, Toyota, etc) and it all seemed to start when manufacturers started using 0W20. There is a recent thread on this forum where someone bought a newer used Toyota with low miles and it is using oil. Mine does too and there are plenty of others.
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2020
  25. Jan 17, 2020 at 8:38 AM
    #115
    sundance

    sundance New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27526
    Messages:
    411
    Gender:
    Male
    Different suppliers would at least have different expectation for tolerances. Its all negotiated.
     
  26. Jan 17, 2020 at 8:39 AM
    #116
    sundance

    sundance New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27526
    Messages:
    411
    Gender:
    Male
    I've seen the complaints on rotors for years but not on the oil consumption. Not denying your issue. Just haven't seen it. Hope you find the issue.

    Are you getting dirty plugs?
     
  27. Jan 17, 2020 at 8:42 AM
    #117
    RDRunner

    RDRunner New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2019
    Member:
    #33091
    Messages:
    241
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2016 SR5 Crewmax 4x4 TSS Edition
    What? If the same blueprint is used the tolerances are the same for all suppliers. It is not negotiated--it is specified in the blueprint. The manufacturer sends out blueprints to be bid on and suppliers have to bid on making the parts to specifications in the blueprint.
     
    JohnLakeman likes this.
  28. Jan 17, 2020 at 8:46 AM
    #118
    sundance

    sundance New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27526
    Messages:
    411
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes. Parts all vary. I mean we're talking about thousandths.... .but they varying. If a part if within "spec" based on acceptable tolerances.... good. Yet, that is not what happens. If a batch is off slightly, negotiations take place. The parts are often accepted with certain negotiated terms. It just depends on who is involved and who controls the deals. I'm not talking about huge discrepancies but, for example, it could be enough to cause some minor oil consumption.
     
  29. Jan 17, 2020 at 8:48 AM
    #119
    sundance

    sundance New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2019
    Member:
    #27526
    Messages:
    411
    Gender:
    Male
    What you want to bet all those recent fuel pumps weren't made to exact manufacturers specs or tolerances?
     
  30. Jan 17, 2020 at 8:48 AM
    #120
    RDRunner

    RDRunner New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2019
    Member:
    #33091
    Messages:
    241
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    2016 SR5 Crewmax 4x4 TSS Edition
    Oil consumption has been an issue for years as well. It is easy not to see it when it is not happening to you. It's not my issue--it is a widespread issue just like the rotor problem.
     

Products Discussed in

To Top