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Front Active Spoiler Failure

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by Tom976, Jul 30, 2024.

  1. Apr 28, 2025 at 8:20 AM
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    BlackNBlu

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    I'm in the same boat.
    Short answer IMO: no.
    Longer answer: Maybe, when stock height, it might add a fraction of an mpg.
    Mine's coming off eventually.
     
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  2. Apr 28, 2025 at 8:34 AM
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    That video is packed full of awesome information us owners might never get to know. This is why I love independent journalism and commend you for providing us valuable insights!
     
  3. May 7, 2025 at 9:56 PM
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    I think the owners manual says it's for stability, not for mpgs.
     
  4. May 7, 2025 at 11:15 PM
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    None at this point.
    Wait...
    When you say active spoiler does that mean it moves by itself based on wind speed?
    If so thats retarded!!!
    WTF would you ever need that for?
    Gonna shut up now just in case I've totally misinterpreted what I've read.
     
  5. May 8, 2025 at 12:13 AM
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    It’s for mpg. As was said, a fraction of 1mpg. Manufacturers have to show many of these reductions to meet standard. It’s deployed and retracted based on speed only.
     
  6. May 8, 2025 at 4:24 AM
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    It’s based off of mph. I think it activates above 30 or 40 mph. I removed mine and kept the motor plugged in.
     
  7. May 8, 2025 at 6:23 AM
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    Yes, like a supercar rear spoiler. It physically moves into place above something like 40mph. Retracts below 25. It's not visible unless you get underneath your truck.
     
  8. May 8, 2025 at 5:07 PM
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    None at this point.
    Seems a bit excessive for a truck.
     
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  9. May 8, 2025 at 5:38 PM
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    Retroboy1989

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    I'd be fine without it and the power tailgate.
     
  10. May 8, 2025 at 7:53 PM
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  11. May 9, 2025 at 9:53 AM
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    None at this point.
    It just seems to be overkill for a truck unless the truck is highly modified and used at the track.
    The whole idea is for downforce to improve traction. I just cant see a Tundra needing this.
     
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  12. May 9, 2025 at 2:34 PM
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    sweers talked about the benefits during towing, stability wise, etc.

    also, with the EPA bs, they have to squeeze out every drop, so I get it from that standpoint as well.
     
  13. May 9, 2025 at 4:00 PM
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    I disabled mine after it was repaired under warranty.

    The spoiler is still in the truck just held in place with many straps tucked in. or you can remove it.
    (I already have an RCI plate in there so oil changes dont need me to drop the spoiler to remote the skid plate like oem)
    Plug to the motor of the system in just unplugged and wrapped to protect it from water.
    Plus on the motor is also weather sealed.

    No errors or issues what so ever on my dash with it unplugged. No plug in module etc either.
     
  14. May 9, 2025 at 4:05 PM
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    Wow I thought someone said it would throw codes if its unplugged.

    EDIT: found this thread but it's still unclear why some are able to unplug without getting codes and others throw codes

    https://www.tundras.com/threads/2022-tundra-front-active-spoiler-solutions.133679/#post-3393177

    :monocle:
     
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  15. May 9, 2025 at 5:12 PM
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    I have a 2023 1794 with it and no codes. The only time I got error was when the motor didnt work anymore.
    There was that standard error on the dash, I clear it and it would pop up again later. So I made an appoitment with the dealer and had to wait.
    Unplugging the unit from the actuator motor cleared my error on the dash! No more error on the dash. Well ok then!

    I brought it to the dealer and they had to determine if it was damage by my action or a failure of the part.
    Dealer ordered part and I had the truck fixed. Dealer techs didnt connect the air dam to the motor, had them fix that right away.
    Off I went home. I had some time so first thing I did was disconnect the system again and wrapped it up.
    No air dam, no errors. Dont miss it at all.
     
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  16. May 10, 2025 at 1:14 PM
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    None at this point.
    Towing ability?
    What exactly are you towing?
     
  17. May 10, 2025 at 1:23 PM
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    He said stability and aerodynamics not ability , likely due to it sending the air out around the truck and trailer at higher speeds.

    I’m just saying what I heard in the video, it’s probably very small , but engineers get a woody over shit like that
     
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  18. May 10, 2025 at 1:28 PM
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    None at this point.
    Havent noticed a difference.
    I tow my camper and SxS and it tows just fine.
     
  19. May 10, 2025 at 1:29 PM
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    That’s not something your going to “notice”, it’s likely a small gain or very very subtle thing in a engineering wind tunnel or something

    all that said, Toyota did an awesome job with the towing improvements this time around , tows awesome
     
  20. May 10, 2025 at 2:49 PM
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    My spoiler was down 24/7 until i got oil change i thought that was normal:)
     
  21. May 15, 2025 at 5:44 PM
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    I have wondered the same thing about the spoiler and here is what I found.

    When my spoiler was broken.
    IMG_5432.jpg

    Working spoiler.
    IMG_5433.jpg

    I mostly do highway so these numbers are definitely not normal and I usually hover around 70 mph just cruising and rolling with the grade. When the spoiler was broken I had a hard time getting to higher speeds, this could be a fluke but just my observation and the working spoiler lets me cruise easier.

    City driving is still around 18 - 21 mpg avg which I doubt will ever change unless I got lighter weight wheels and tires.
     
  22. May 15, 2025 at 8:08 PM
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    Yours is a limited but has the analog gauges?
     
  23. May 15, 2025 at 8:50 PM
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    Digital cluster was added to Limiteds for 2024.
     
  24. May 15, 2025 at 9:44 PM
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    I've only towed with mine a little so far, but what I have experienced was excellent. My 2012 towed great, but this 2025 is something else. The power and handling are next level.

    And tow+, *chef's kiss*
     
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  28. Jun 23, 2025 at 2:35 PM
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    So, anyone got a replacement part # for this POS motor?
    Or, if I reset the computer and unplug the defective one, will I get an alert still?
     
  29. Jun 23, 2025 at 4:52 PM
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  30. Jun 24, 2025 at 3:32 PM
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    When I saw this new front spoiler feature and inspected its fragility, I figured this would only last a few seasons of all the mud and dirt I would throw at it off road. It seems like a simple mechanism but just like the motorized retractable side steps, as soon as all the sand a dirt gets in the crevices, they bind up and fail over time.
     

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