Tundra vs F-150

I put a deposit(refundable) on SR5 offroad 6.5bed.

For the same price, I can order(xplan) F-150 XLT 302A, 3.5 hybrid motor, 7200watt generator, 6.5bed, Bench front seats(which I prefer) .

I like the look of both.

I feel like I get more stuffs from F-150. I had 15 F-150 and that was the most quiet truck I have ever owned.

Thing is I tend to change my truck every 3-5yrs. And I know resale value of tundra is one of the best so I will pay the same money for both now but get 5-10k less from F-150 when I sell.

Until last year, getting 15k off of msrp was not too hard on F-150 but for tundra, they only offered max 5k off. So I feel like buying a tundra at msrp is bang for the buck now.

I mean this is tundra forum but would you consider F-150 xlt hybrid for the same price?

 

I have an F-150 hybrid at work. It’s got 40k so far without any problems. It is quiet and has ok pickup for the 3.5L. That said I wouldn’t in my wildest dreams pay for one.

 

An F150 XLT 302a hybrid for under $50k is a hell of a deal. I've never seen them under 60k in my area. That being said I think the test drive should play a factor.

 

I owned a '13 F150....and it's WHY I now own a Tundra.

 

I just can’t imagine signing onto a new depreciating asset every 3-5 years.

Are the Ford’s features on paper worth that hit? The Ford will probably be reliable-ish in that time frame, but it will most likely have minor issues that make you go back to the dealer. Those Powerboosts are buggy. I absolutely hate that. That’s why I picked the 14-year-old platform.

To answer your question, no I would never consider a new F150 of any kind. I am problem-averse with my vehicles. That said, the ‘22 Tundra is an unknown quantity at this point as well.

 

I have a 15 F150 Lariat 501. Been a good truck. Currently at 150k.

I’m a Ford shareholder and think they have a better future than other domestics. Nobody builds a bad truck anymore but your chances of getting a bad Toyota are less than your chances of getting a bad Ford.

My theory on car buying is different than yours (doesn’t make your theory wrong). I believe the only way to minimize your losses on cars is to keep them for at least 6 years and/or 150k. I’m a fan of buying what you want so you’re satisfied with the vehicle for the long-run. I haven’t seen the data - and we don’t know resale values for the new Ford and Tundra - but you’re probably nibbling around the edges by focusing on resale. Couple thousand here/there. However, you’re likely correct that the Tundra resale will be higher.

I will purchase a new vehicle in 4Q22 or 1Q23 and it’s very likely to be a new Tundra.

A) The Tundra finally caught up on features.

B) I want to keep the vehicle for a long time and I trust Toyota quality more than Ford. However, there will be some (relative) quality hiccups in the Tundra’s first model year.

C) Toyota is a non-union shop and my personal views don’t align with those of union leadership. Not trying to start a discussion on this point.

D) I perceive that Ford did a 3rd down punt with the latest redesign. Very conservative.

E) The new Ford is very raked. The back end sits almost comically high and I’m not a level/lift/mod guy. It bugs the fire out of me. Just my opinion. This is subjective.

D) I do some farm/hunting off-roading but not any heavy towing. The Tundra will suit my off-road needs and I don’t need the Ford’s additional towing capability.

E) I do wish the Tundra had 4A but don’t really need it in Arkansas. I use it on rainy days but don’t need to. I’ve used it on our rare snow covered road days - and it’s great! - but 4H is also great in those situations.

F) I also wish the Tundra had tow hooks but, honestly, I’ve never used the ones I have. For my application, they’re more of a “feel better because I’ve got them if I need them” thing.

The Ford would very likely treat you well and be a great truck. They sell a bazillion of them with very good customer loyalty. That’s not achieved by building a Yugoslavian crap-box. Drive both and see which you like best. You’ll probably find out in the first couple years if any vehicle is going to give you a lot of problems. You likely can’t go wrong. Good luck! Shopping and dreaming is part of the fun.

 

If there was a $10,000 price difference in sticker price or financing rates etc I would consider the Ford. Even with this new Tundra with all new stuff I’d trust it over any of the big 3. if you want something for 3-5 years and you won’t drive past the warranty then buy what makes you happy.

 

Powerboost is a great engine, especially with the onboard generator. Toyota really missed the boat on that one with their upcoming hybrid.

With that said, I would still probably get the Tundra unless you absolutely needed the onboard. (this is where someone will chime in and say they added their own to their old ass Tundra)

 

Is the 22 Tundra likely to be different in that regard?

 

Big NO on the ford for me. Everyone I actually know that has an f150, regardless of configuration has had issues with it. But do what you want, buy the Ford.

 

My thinking here may be a little unconventional here…

Lease the Ford F-150 for three years and it won’t matter want problems you have.

Within those three years Toyota will work out many of the bugs. Therefore making it a decent time to buy a Tundra. I would never buy a first “completely” new generation with all different motors/drivetrains. A mild refresh is another story…

 

Just wait till the "power folding" gear shifter get stuck in down (folded) position

 

One of the highest quality, well-thought-out, and respectful responses I've read on the internet today. Kudos to you, sir! Cheers!

 

When the market tanked with Covid initially, I jumped on some Ford stock. In another year or two, I hope it funds my next Tundra buy. I originally thought it would be for a Bronco or F150, but I feel they sort of messed up things.

Still a good stock, and as mentioned, there are a lot of happy F150 owners out there. Great to have choices!