2022 Tundra

Well I felt that way about the 1st Gen truck too but that one sure did not last for long,in Toyota Time at least!

 

What kills the Nissan XD, on paper at least, is the damn F-150 with the heavy duty frame. Although almost no F-150 have that option, it's bad optics for the XD. The Titan XD is a very heavy truck, and tows at max capacity better than any 1/2 ton, but otherwise suffers the same problem of the normal Titan, being designed by a.....uh, do I wanna get banned again?

 

I was thinking that, but if you look, there’s radar sensors there.

 

The TRD Pro starting price for the 4 runner is higher than the Tundra....The starting price on the TRD Pro 4 runner is $52,100. (2022) The starting price on the Tundra TRD Pro was $49,125. So the price of the Tundra Pro might be pretty close to the 66K on the 4 runner.

The 4 runner has always been priced a little higher than the Tundra, the starting MSRP tops out on the Tundra at $49,245. It tops out at $52,100 on the 4 Runner. Now, I do believe the Tundra had more options to push the prices higher, but you can push a 4 runner up there as well.

 

Driversonly on TikTok has a post of the hybrid. It’s the body off the frame showing the whole truck. Short video but dam that thing looks complicated.

 

A 3/4 ton truck would not cost 100K....actually, you can buy a 3/4 ton truck from all the makers of 3/4 ton trucks for about what a Tundra costs. You can buy a 1 ton as well.

 

I never said a 3/4 ton would cost $100,000. I said that the 5/8 ton titan HD cost just as much as a 3/4 ton so it was a bust. The $100,000 that I mentioned is what the cost would be if Toyota created a truck that met 100% of all of our wants. If they tried to please everyone, they would need a truck that had the raptor capabilities the specs of a 3/4, the inverter of the powerboost, and 25+ mpgs while still having the Toyota reliability. They created a truck that met 90% of their customers wants and needs that should still be comparable in price to the other 1/2 tons.

 

Anyone see any reason they wouldn't drop this exact same engine into the next Gen Tacoma/4runner? I can't think of any reason to dumb it down at all for these lighter/smaller platforms. It would get even better gas mileage due to being lighter.

 

... and all to be built on same platform ! Things that make you go hmmmm

 

With so much talk about the Sienna toyota should just throw a bed on the Sienna and it would be their #1 selling pick up. We don’t know the details and I bet the 400W is standard and maybe the 1500W is an option.

 

Go price out a Ford F250 in Canada - Limiteds start at $99,535. And the crazy part - there's people driving around in those crazy pricey trucks.

 

I have seen many trd pro tundras with msrp of 56ish. And that is msrp not dealer markups. Maybe it varies by region, I am in the northeast

 

They are doing a turbo 4 and a hybrid 4 in those platforms. There is a chance that the Turbo 6 gets into the 4 runner as they have put the bigger engine in that platform before.

 

https://youtu.be/PaWre3Bd-Vc

 

Whilst we're on the subject of ridiculous pricing for trucks, did y'all know that full size trucks are a cash cow? Turns out manufacturers make less than $1k on unibody cars, but full-size trucks and SUVs make several grand per unit. And not one person cares. Throw some leather and steer horns on a truck and people will trip on each other to pay $100k for a $50k machine....
https://gmauthority.com/blog/2018/08/gm-banks-17000-profit-per-pickup-on-average/

 

Respect sir

 

Many. Not the least of which is that it could cannibalize sales in the wrong direction.

 

I totally respect where you are coming from, and I usually accept the consequences for poppin' off. No big deal.

But it's true, the 2nd gen Titan was ruined. I own a 1st gen, best truck ever (of it's time) and the 2nd gen was a let down. When I found out what the root cause was, I was not happy. I am not going to change my stance. I will try and reduce the opportunities to say something, but I know exactly why the 2nd Gen Titan failed, and why I am excited about the 3rd Gen Tundra. It's a fact, as inconvenient as it may seem!

 

Is that Edgar from MiB?

 

Never mind 1500W how about 1.21 Giga Watts ? Now that’s some power !!!!

 

It's the dude from the Lonely Island video, "Jizz in my pants"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY

 

Pretty sure poor designing by an engineer has zero correlation to gender of the engineer. Who cares about Nissans? I’m here because I own a Tundra.

 

High end camping for me means I took the wall tent and woodstove, complete with Coleman white gas lanterns and army cots. Roughing it is sleeping in the back of my truck in December because I’m hunting alone that trip and don’t want the work of setting up a full camp.

 

Once met a guy out in the mountains who had a homemade gas blender. Made it out of a 2stroke weed whacker. Used the guts of an old kitchenaid blender and matched it to the business end of the weed whacker by way of a reverse thread adapter.

we all laughed at it until it was Miller time… then we all lined up with a cup!