2022 Tundra

I'm willing to compromise and settle for a 6 speed manual with an external cooler on it.

 

you guys are really wishing now, manual trans, lol. there is no way Toyota is going to do that.

 

#dreamcrusher

 

Have you tried 5THGENRAM ? Most of the members there agree that the Tundra is the most reliable , except a few who had their Tundras lemon lawed ( but they’re a little salty about it ) . They’ve been extremely helpful with other members .

 

Haven't been digging in that one, don't know how much info I'd get from there since I have a 2020 Classic. I'm hoping I don't have too much more digging since I've found the info I wanted on the Hemi and the wife said she doesn't want mods done like I've done to the Tundra lol.

 

Right , the classic is the 4th gen . One of the problems with the Hemi is the cracked exhaust manifold ( Hemi tick ) . I always turn the mds off every time I put it in drive . I have no proof of this but my way of thinking is that with mds enabled it allows different rates of heating of the manifold . That to me could be the cause . This is my third Ram with the Hemi and I’ve never had the “ Hemi tick “ . I guess it could just be luck .

 

I am a member of ramforumz, and I always found people helpful., that said, I don't go there much anymore now a days.

I still visit tundra solutions where I have been a member since 2000 when I got my 1999 year 2000 model year tundra.

now where the hell did 21 years go

 

I bought my 2000 Tundra on Jan 7, 2000 and joined Tundrasolutions then

agreed re: 21 yrs!

 

The main reason I found for the ticking was poor oil circulation at idle causing cam issues. This was supposed to be helped in 2016 but I'm making sure my wife doesn't idle the truck much and not be afraid to give it some RPM's when leaving lights/merging to help get the oil moving. A cracked exhaust sucks, but is manageable, unlike a cam issue which happened to us on the vehicle we traded in for the Ram - I don't want it to happen 2 vehicles in a row

 

People have shown you won’t save anything by trading in for a new truck, but if your lease is expiring anyway I’d say wait and see what the new tundra will actually be like then decide.

 

The mistake a lot of people make is just looking at the gas savings.
Then they go trade a vehicle that is paid for, or almost paid for, for a new fuel efficient vehicle that cost them more per month than the fuel savings.
In the case of your lease it is a little different, but still something to keep in mind. If you turn your Tundra in, what will be the options? How much will that cost, apart from the fuel savings? If you are going to buy out the leased vehicle vs. buying a new F150 you might save enough in truck payment to make up for the gas difference.

 

Expect the Tundra hybrid to be better. The F150 hybrid is rated 4 MPG better than the regular 3.5, at a premium of $1500 CAD (I'm not sure on US cost difference). How much better is the huge question that nobody knows the answer to.

If you're looking purely at finances see what rate you can get on a 5 year (or shorter if the payments work for you) auto loan. If that loan is 2% or less then buying out your current truck will almost certainly be the best financial decision. You've already sunk X amount into it during your lease and if you turn in the truck you're back at square one and will have to eat the depreciation. Likely at the end of your lease at worst the loan amount will be very close to the trade in value so for the rest of the loan you're gaining equity in the truck. I highly recommend you do a 3, 5, and 10 year cost of ownership on your current truck, an F150 for example, and new Tundra when info comes out. Once you do that you'll be able to see purely based on finances what the choice is for you. It could end up that you may pay less for fuel on a new Tundra (say 1500/year), but you lose more than that on depreciation (3000/year more than your current Tundra) - so in that scenario you're paying 1500/year more for a more fuel efficient truck.

Many of us ended up in Tundra's because we looked at cost of ownership - sure we pay more in fuel each year but we 'make' more in not needing repairs or trade in value. For example if shit hit the fan in my life right now I could trade my truck in (not sell it, that would get me even more money) and get near $10k in my pocket (trade value ~$30k, loan value ~$20k), do that on a similar Ram 1500 (I know this off the top of my head to use as an example) and I would only get $3-5k in my pocket. So cost of ownership has been +$1k or more per year in the 5 years of ownership.

 

At the dealership that I use to work at I would see what the traded in F150s, Rams and Chevys were worth after only a couple of years. It was shocking. As a tech we had to go through them to find any issues and there was no comparison to the Tundras that were traded in.

 

It's a face only a mother could love........ putting an aftermarket bumper on this truck pictured would be a PITA with all that plastic Shannanigans on the front.
Of course it's not nearly as ugly as the face on the current Tundra.

 

Looks like you would just take the bumper off to me....clean line straight across.

 

Did you price in premium for the ttv6?

 

Keep in mind, the Ecoboost recommends premium fuel. The Tundra does not.

 

I may not be in my right mind but I am thinking of a Silverado just because even though I love my 2001 I want to get a new truck and there is no information on the 2022 Tundra's yet. 2021 Tundra is in the running but until recently I did not see any in stock around me.

 

Rumors are that the next gen Tundra won't require Premium either. I don't think the Lexus LS requires premium, but it does recommend it. Still, some real world reviews that I've seen say that it is a dog on regular.

 

I was just referring to the comparison of the 2021 Tundra and the F-150. Most turbos need the premium fuel to perform as advertised.

 

Have you read this thread?

https://www.tundras.com/threads/just-test-drove-a-21-1794-now-im-hooked.86801/

 

Growing up I was a GM fan, and with all their issues I have them in last out of the 5 half tons that I would buy right now. It just seems like all their focus went to the HD trucks and they slapped together the 1/2 tons. If I was HD shopping GM would be at the top (just wait for the interior refresh that should be out soon) but half tons I'd stay clear.

 

I still think Ford and GM are about equal and both ahead of Ram for halftons but I don't really care about the features, just the reliability and functionality.

 

Pretty sure that’s just for the high output ecoboost in the raptor and not the normal f150 ecoboost.

 

Kind of. From the owner's manual. 87 is the minimum, but for best performance you need to use premium in any ecoboost. Don't know anyone who isn't after best performance. Even if it's only when towing, it's still required at some point.










And a link with more info. https://www.torquenews.com/3769/ford-f150-performance-reflects-octane-level-93-definitely-better They said the that 93 octane vs 87 was a difference of 20 HP. So, required? Maybe not, but if you want the numbers advertised, you have to pay for it.

 

Haha. Im not suggesting anyone put regular in their LS, but you can find plenty of posts like this from LS 500 website:

"I've been driving my LS 500 around for the past week and was pretty concerned by the apparent turbo lag and rough engine noise compared to my previous LS 460. Anyway, I finally used up most of the complimentary tank of gas that came with the car and filled it up with premium gasoline (as recommended in the manual). I noticed an immediate difference. The acceleration is way smoother and that roughness is gone! It still doesn't sound like a V8 though but it is very subdued and the car is more responsive, as it should be. I believe Lexus dealers fill up all their cars with regular gasoline. If so, then it's not helping them sell the LS."

 

I have seen this issue but I really am not interested in the opening back window. The only back opening window I am interested in now is the Tundra's rear window that goes down fully. I also do not want a moon roof or sun roof and those are clear deal killers for me.

EDIT: And just to add my 2001 Tundra stopped right off of a bridge going into my city during rush hour when it was a year old. I had to have it towed to a Toyota dealership I was not familiar with and the whole thing ended up being a mess. Though that really pissed me off at the time I do not judge my whole Tundra experience by that one thing.

 

Still the best according to KBB: https://www.motorbiscuit.com/best-overall-truck-brand/

 

Does this calculator completely ignore repair costs and time spent in the shop?

The question is, should you ignore those costs or anticipate them with a new Ford?

I remember Edmunds saying the Tundra was the cheapest to own over 5 years despite poor fuel economy because there are far fewer repair costs involved. Granted, if fuel prices skyrocket, they play a larger role obviously. I’d wait and see about the next gen Tundra if I were you.

Remember that the F150 has long looked the best on paper, but real world experiences are very different.