Lets Talk Suspension/Lift

Hello all,

So I have a 2016 Pro DC I am looking to explore bolstering the suspension to support the weight of steel bumpers, sliders, rack and gear ect for offroad.


Just wanted to see what is out there for routes for our Pros and what you guys are running to support your weight. I would Ideally be looking for a lift that does not cut the subframe and is not spacers...

Picture of the Rig.

 

Definitely following this. I do know that Icon offered stiffer springs with their kits when I ordered for my Tacoma. I am sure King and the others do as well to support the extra weight of armor. I wasn't aware that this was as big of an issue on full size trucks so I am going to do my best to pay attention here.

 

I see this thread is about to go off the main page for lack of responses, so here’s a bump. My suggestion is you try a bit of searching the forum though, because this has been discussed so. many. times. that usually we just can’t do it again. Once you’ve searched around and figured out builds you like and what those used, and what you’re willing to spend, you can ask more specific questions and probably get a better response.

In the meantime, here’s one free bump to give you another run down the main page. Good luck!

 

Thanks! So I've done a ton of searching I am looking more or less on feed back on people set ups what they have what they like and what they would have done different. For offroad but also daily short driving trips.

I'm not in the long travel budget.
BUT I'm a buy one cry once kind of guy

 

If you don't want to trim your frame or any body panels, do a 3 inch lift and get tires only slightly wider than stock. Tundras are plenty capable as is. I'd rather drop money into a decent suspension than have tires too wide for the truck. But that's just me, as I care more about functionality. Most people on these forums hate to admit it, but they build their trucks for likes. I'm about to do an OME 3 inch lift with the heavier duty leaf package.

 

Currently running 295/70/18 STT Pros and 1.25 Bora spacers.I'm happy with the set up I made some minor adjustments for clearance in the front but nothing major I don't see myself doing a mount chop or anything. I'm gonna bog the rig down with weight racks,storage ,RTT,fridge and armor ect..I just want to get a few (3-4) more inches to compensate and be prepared for some semi challenging off road runs.

 

Quick run down I did fox for the fact it was softer on road then others. Icon I saw to many issues and Kings after I rode on the road to stiff for me. That being said fox travel is lacking for the rear so unless u wanna cut the back of the bed to fit shocks ads is the only good options for triple bypass rears or kings the Fox would have to be custom which you would have to do all the math. Upper arms total chaos. Good luck just my 10 cents but so much knowledge on this forum and guys with great info

 

Thanks for the input I was looking into the Icons what kind of problems are people seeing with them?

 

Going flat, blown out, leaking turn around times. 2 shops wouldn’t touch them due to issue when I was looking around and a guy on this forum spend a grip and he had a ton of issues with them. And the upper arms don’t fit out trucks well

 

Wow yeah that sounds like headaches I would not like to have thanks for the heads up.

 

I suggest measure your current setup, add your weight, ride on it, and then adjust your suspension based on your needs. Not what I did, but pretty sure this is the right answer.
I have a FWC on order and am now wanting to also add sliders, bumpers etc. Did what I thought needed to be done for my added weight but am now realizing I will probably have to redo the suspension once all the weight is on there
and of course I want bigger tires again even though I realize all of the benefits of smaller tires

 

If you’re considering Icon, you need to learn about ‘digressive’ vs. ‘progressive’. The member on here with Icons that has done the most/best to explain the differences is KevinK, if you want to search for his posts and threads, you’ll learn a ton of related info.

 

Thanks for the heads up! I'll definitely look it up.

 

Yeah I plan on getting it at full weight and then getting a number on it just gotta locate a scale lol and then plan my set up from there.

 

I'm running Fox 2.5's with adjusters in the front and back, Icon RXT pack for leafs, and SPC for uppers.f Currently I only have a bed rack and RTT (and camping gear of course) but do plan on getting a front and rear bumper eventually. I'm on 650 pound springs and it rides perfect, especially with the adjusters.

In terms of travel I haven't had any issues, although this past weekend I did end up with my tail end 3 feet in the air because of some wicked washouts...

Below are some pictures of travel, I still had a bit of stretch left in the first pic. My setup isn't crazy, but it allows me to do tight jeep trails here in CO. Even had some jeep dudes say they were impressed I made the trail in the Tundra. It was Metberry Gulch for reference. Pictures don't do it justice.

In terms of other suspension options (King, Icon) I went Fox over King because they use harder piston rods and a better hose for external resi's, plus are rated for colder weather (shock fluid). I didn't want to go Icon because of the digressive valving. I would say Fox is probably more linear, leaning to the progressive side, but there are others that can probably speak more to that. How I understand it is:

• Digressive = Stiffer damping at slow speed/short travel shock movements, and softer damping at high speed/long shock travel movements.
• Progressive = Softer damping at slow speed/short travel shock movements, and stiffer damping at high speed/long travel shock movements.

Here's a good link I've referenced in the past: https://accutuneoffroad.com/articles/digressive-vs-linear-vs-progressive-pistons-shock-valving/ Regardless, the types of trails in CO allow for a linear/progressive setup to shine- hence the Fox/King debate for me. Not many places to go super fast and jump in CO, whereas in Utah/Arizona I feel like a digressive setup would shine. But I do go as fast as the ol' Tundra will allow on jeep trails haha.

 

Nice Rig! Thanks for the info

Progressive valving seems like it's the school of thought I need to be in.

Pretty much nothing but jeep stuff where I am.I'd be lucky to get over 30mph out here unless I'm chasing logging roads ....Nh ME VT are going to be the majority of the stomping ground. It's a whole lot of tight wooded stuff where jeeps shine and it makes it a lot more technical with the Tundra.