2022 tundra article and video

They could afford to lose the ones that they would actually lose if they picked up an equal number of people that wanted the bigger bed and bigger cab. I cannot state it as fact, but I seem to have seen a ton of people saying the only reason they did a DC was for the longer bed and they wish that they could have had both. Not sure they would lose a lot of people on that move.

 

Extended cabs make up such a small percentage of sales now. I would venture 70-80% of Tundra DC buyers do so mainly based on the 6.5' bed. I know it was for me. Toyota isn't going to pump the money into trucks that Ford or GM will, so cost cutting is going to be a huge factor in many decisions. In my area 80+% of new trucks are crew cabs, and I think that's a conservative estimate. I think Toyota is better spending money on 2 frames/beds than on 2 cabs, at least for the first 2 years.

 

Double Cab has been a pretty strong seller for Toyota. I've never heard a peep of the possibility of cutting the double cab because of low demand. Don't think this would happen.

 

It is a solid seller. No one is denying that... but it a valid question to ask how many of those sales were for the bed, and not the cab?

 

Neither have I.

I was just wondered by the smaller Toyota Trucks/SUVs have a 6 lug and the larger Toyotas Trucks/SUVs have a 5 lug.


O.S.T.

 

The Tundra is better off without exterior trans cooler. I do not know why you guys can't get it thru your head.

 

I'm sure if a CCLB existed tomorrow we lose some DC owners and some CCSB owners. I wonder

Please explain to me why this is so.

 

Please watch Tundra Dude 34 latest video. Mike Sweers answers this question clearly.

 

Did not explain why the Trans cooler was acceptable for the previous 12 model years.

 

Maybe the conducted a study don't you think?

 

It makes no sense. What if I want the shorter wheel base and the 6.5 bed. It's not very realistic to think of getting rid of the Double Cab. If you bought a CrewMax you obviously prioritize the extra cab space.

 

The wheel studs on Tacomas are 12mm diameter.....the wheel studs on Tundras are 14mm....

Considering the shear strength of the 14mm vs 12mm, 5 lugs on the Tundra is plenty and probably just as strong if not stronger than the 5 lugs on the Tacoma

My apologies if my thinking is wrong....cheers.

 

No your thinking is not wrong. By going to six lugs on the new Tundra I suspect it will have the same bolt pattern as the Tacoma. Big saving keeping everything standardized.

 

yup standard would be cheaper but watch them going to a 6 lug on the Tundra with a different pattern size than Tacoma, Sequoia,.....

 

This could be a way for Toyota to differentiate the Tundra and Tacoma more - want payload and towing go Tundra, want smaller size go Tacoma.

In the second generation they gave up a segment of the market with the full 4 door and 6.5 bed - in the 4th gen I could see them giving up the DC market to get into the CM 6.5 bed market. The DC (or extended cab) market is now a niche market, and to help keep costs down not entering that market would not surprise me. And this is me, a DC owner saying this, I bought it solely for the 6.5 bed, my next Tundra will be a Crewmax though. If there's a 6.5 bed then that's what it will be, even if they only do the 5.5 though I will still buy the CM next.

 

How do you know that the new Tundra wont have the same bolt pattern as the Tacoma? The new Tacoma out around 2023 is going to be built on the same platform as the Tundra.

 

I don't know....I just wouldn't be surprised them using a different bolt pattern...it's been different for decades

 

It sounds like you want Toyota to put the least amount of effort on this new truck? I can't justify Getting rid of a staple pickup truck configuration to produce another CrewMax variant that will very likely have less payload and towing than any other variant.

 

It hasn't had a dedicated cooler since 2010. The shared cooler wasn't all that efficient.

Did you ever see one of the 07-10 external coolers? If you had, you wouldn't be too impressed with it. It was very small.

 

I'd love for Toyota to do everything - V8, diesel, hybrid, 3/4 ton, 1 ton, Regular Cab, Double Cab, Crewmax, 5.5' bed, 6.5' bed, 8' bed on everything. But they didn't do that in 2007 for a reason, and they won't do some of it in 2022. This is a speculation thread, and the more I go down the rabbit hole of getting rid of a DC the more I would understand it. Toyota is going to weigh the benefits (profit) of doing all this stuff and some things won't make the cut.

 

The AC condenser setup with the thermostat assembly h

I'll give you some reasons why Toyota won't get rid of the Double Cab.

1) Toyota already builds a Double Cabs for 13 years
2) Double Cabs share the same frame as a CrewMax
3) Double Cabs sell in good numbers
4) Double Cabs have superior Payload and Towing
5) Toyota recently released the PRO trim in Double Cab configuration for 2020
6) by eliminating Double Cabs. Tundra would be the only full-size truck without an extended cab
7) Keeping the Double Cab allows Toyota's expands Toyota's potential customers and will help retain existing Tundra owners.

 

Worked well for the AC but I don't believe it every really added much to the ATF cooling.

 

Just a few counter points to consider
1) Regular cabs were made for how long? They're not made anymore
3) Many of which, myself included, bought a DC because a 6.5' bed is not available in CM. Make a CM with a 6.5 bed and they cut into these numbers significantly.
4) Go back to number 1, regular cabs are even better and Toyota already cut them.
5) DC and CM Pro's are the same other than the stamped rear 1/4 panel. They want a better 4 door off roader they should do a double cab and 5.5' bed like the Raptor.
6) Again back to number 1, along with Nissan also doesn't do a DC
7) Do the few extra customers generate enough profit to make up for the extra design and build costs? To me this is the big question, if it's yes or close they will do it, if it's a clear no then it will be scraped. This answer has already been determined, we just have to wait until it's released to see.

To me there's excellent points on both sides, I can't see a definitive answer. I'd like them to keep it, but I would also think they would have a valid reason to cut it.

 

I think you're right. On bolt cross sectional area alone, we have about 770mm^2 on the Tundra, vs. 678mm^2 on the Tacoma.
...I think.

 

looks like we have a long wait for a new one, doh

 

Probably spring of 2022. The Feb 8th Chicago auto show did have the new Tundra.

 

"New" as in trim

 

Yeah you would have thought they would have displayed the new Tundra. Instead they come out with some add on storage for the box. I laughted at the "stealth" look and thought it looked like my black SX.

 

Right and it was same as the current model, just a few small sideways-grades as I wouldn't really call them upgrades. I am just glad since I bought a 2020 in December and knew a new Tundra was coming.I was ok with this truck since it's awesome but I would have felt a little lame if the new one came out super soon. The longer the wait justifies my decision.